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To: Salvation

“All men, including priests, and all women, including nuns and sisters, know they are sinners.

What’s your point?”

What is yours? Do Catholics, half of them, have perfect spouses who are free from sin?

My argument was with the idea that someone who doesn’t marry in an attempt to serve God is not superior in qualification as a marriage counselor to someone who is married to an imperfect, sinful spouse. The specific sentence I pointed out was this one:

“Without denigrating the noble vocation of marriage, it can rightly be said that the couple undertaking marriage can find no better guide to understanding the essential nature of the gift of self than the celibate priest who has emptied himself in imitation of Christ.”

Really? Someone who is not married is superior in discussing marriage to a married counselor? And that superiority is based on the celibate man’s supposed knowledge of how to give himself to God (who, unlike our spouses, is perfect)?


57 posted on 06/22/2014 5:58:44 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Left wing. Right wing. One buzzard.)
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To: Mr Rogers

I have experienced a Jewish counselor who was very good as well as lesbian counselor who didn’t listen to me, but told me what she thought.

The Jewish counselor was married and helped me through the death of my husband.


62 posted on 06/22/2014 6:11:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mr Rogers

All vocations are equally blessed by God. Marriage, single life, priesthood and consecrated religious life.

We are all called to a vocation.


67 posted on 06/22/2014 6:19:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mr Rogers
Really? Someone who is not married is superior in discussing marriage to a married counselor?

Really is it now a requirement that ALL marriage counselors be married? When did this law pass? Is it just for your state or all states?

70 posted on 06/22/2014 6:26:20 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: Mr Rogers

Can we discuss crime even though we are not criminals?

Can we discuss politics even though we are not politicians?

Can we discuss gardening even though we are not Master Gardeners?

Get with it!


73 posted on 06/22/2014 6:29:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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