Posted on 06/23/2014 6:17:59 PM PDT by Gamecock
“Not quite: they actually wish conservative Catholics (though a minority) were all celibate...”
Well, the way I see it is that they want everyone to have sex, including the unmarried and especially clergy. They just don’t want them to have kids because of it. The discipline of celibacy for clergy and religious in the latin Church is universally hated by liberals of any faith. Just like the prohibition of birth control within marriage is invariably hated by the liberals of any faith.
Freegards
“Because God would never tell you to do one thing and then tell you not to do that thing anymore.”
EXACTLY!
Martin Luther was not called to make his VOWS (plural) unless he was called by God.
And there is no “gee I’m sorry Lord, didn’t mean it, fingers crossed, never mind Lord, maybe later......
A vow of celibacy is like a marriage vow - it’s like Herpes, its forever.
AMDG
HTB has described to a tee most every baptistic church with which I have ever fellowshipped. The SBC, for just one example, is an association. It’s not a controlling hierarchy. Individual pastorates are filled by deliberation of the local body of believers. Indeed, these congregations do tend tob retain their conservatism despite failures of association leadership.
The main threat of corruption, IMHO, in these scenarios is the association seminaries. If they go bad, then it becomes more difficult to find good pastoral leadership. This is essentially what happened to American Presbyterianism early last century. The modernists staged a coup in the seminaries, took the money, the property, and effectively forced those who wanted to remain conservative to flee and form new churches.
That’s a terrific book.
I guess I’m not so bold to think that God could lead me to do one thing for a season and then another thing when He said that season was over. Clearly the season of RCC priesthood was over for him when he was excommunicated.
It’s obvious!
Spoken like a 'true' Mormon.
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
Birds of a feather...
Do you; Mary; take this man Joseph; to have and to hold...
That's what all those priests who molested children did and all we hear from the RCs is that nobody is perfect, they're sinners just like the rest of us (Oh really? The *rest of us are pedophiles?), and once a priest, always a priest.
Seems like the only condemnation for a priest breaking his vows is for the ones who marry.
A woman.
It will be SURE to attract Mocking ELSIE!
But SURELY there is some overlap; considering there's 30 or 35 or 50 or 85 THOUSNAD different sects out there...
But we are to believe that GOD somehow managed to forget to have some Scripture written down, and then had to slip it into the Catholic doctrines by the Church Fathers.
Oh SNAP!
“Church polity varies greatly according to denomination.
But SURELY there is some overlap; considering there’s 30 or 35 or 50 or 85 THOUSNAD different sects out there... “
If you divide it by language groups, you can claim 300,000...
Many members of perpetually offend groups will not take an honest look at themselves. And if someone from the outside says something, no matter how true, that person is labeled a racist/Catholic basher/homophobe.....
Elsie:
Well, I don’t disagree “at all”. Dissident Catholics on women’s ordination, abortion, euthanasia, etc., would definitely feel at home with those groups.
If the shoe fits then wear it!
AMDG
“Its a calling”
Yes the Priesthood is not for everyone.
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