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1 posted on 06/27/2014 10:34:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Just want to note that this is a working draft and not the final document.


2 posted on 06/27/2014 10:36:14 AM PDT by Petrosius
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Major Vatican Document Says Unjust Discrimination Against Gay People Should Be Avoided

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So. If we are to adhere to the Bible and follow what it says; we will be guilty of Unjust Discrimination.

If God does indeed send filthy Sodomites to Hell; He too is guilty of Unjust Discrimination.

Got it.


3 posted on 06/27/2014 10:38:06 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have nothing against a talented gay artist painting the Sistine Chapel, as an example, just as long as he has no contact with children.


4 posted on 06/27/2014 10:38:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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A major document by the Vatican has said that unjust discrimination against gay people needs to be avoided and that children of same-sex unions must be cared for as any other, but it still maintains opposition to same-sex couples adopting children and has affirmed traditional teachings on marriage. The Instrumentum Laboris is a result of Pope Francis' call in October 2013 for Roman Catholic bishops around the world to convene and discuss matters of family and the Christian faith.

PFL

5 posted on 06/27/2014 10:41:46 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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The CCC has always said this. Does not mean the Catholic Church condones the act of homosexuality and or will endorse homo “marriage”. That will never happen as long as there’s a Bible. The word of God does not change.


6 posted on 06/27/2014 10:44:40 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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On the whole, the extreme reactions to these unions, whether compromising or uncompromising, do not seem to have facilitated the development of an effective pastoral programme which is consistent with the Magisterium and compassionate towards the persons concerned.

Trying to figure what this really means. Wouldn't the most compassionate response be to tell these couples that they need to separate and follow Church teaching and remain celibate?

Or are we talking about more of this post VII "pastoral and compassionate" BS?

7 posted on 06/27/2014 10:48:57 AM PDT by piusv
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The Roman "church" does not represent YHvH's WORD !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

8 posted on 06/27/2014 10:50:35 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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I have no problem with this. Gay people should not be executed, or beaten or jailed for being gay. Whatever they do with another consenting adult in their bedroom is their business — I’m not their priest or minister so their souls are not my responsibility. But, of course, that’s not where we are today in America. Today, we have a gay agenda that forces acceptance on everyone at the risk of financial ruin. That I disagree with.


9 posted on 06/27/2014 10:50:43 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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...Do they mean other than the “discrimination” that Scripture condemns them to hell unless they repent??? God has already discriminated against them. Big time.


10 posted on 06/27/2014 11:12:35 AM PDT by afsnco
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I am so mad I could spit.

We are going through a worldwide systematic campaign of legitimacy of the sin of Sodom, and the response to it is.....warning people against “unjust” discriminating against the Sodomites. LIKE THAT’S THE BIG FLIPPING PROBLEM HERE.

VATICANISTI.....siete tutti scemi. SCEMI. Se non volete difendere la fede, ANDATE TUTTI A CASA e non ci cimentare con queste scemenze. Porco!

I’ll apologize to you English speakers for the yelling. The Italian speakers deserve every bit of it.


11 posted on 06/27/2014 11:16:38 AM PDT by Claud
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Major Vatican Document Says Unjust Discrimination Against Gay People Should Be Avoided

You mean when the gays' avoid their unjust defiance of God?

12 posted on 06/27/2014 11:18:49 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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This looks like another straddle from the Vatican.

Why doesn’t the Vatican simply say what Jesus said to the prostitute?


18 posted on 06/27/2014 11:53:24 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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Is this the same church that prohibits divorced heterosexuals from taking communion? Isn’t that odd that more compassion is shown for homo sin and not hetero sin??!!


24 posted on 06/27/2014 12:17:07 PM PDT by RginTN
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The line about “unjust discrimination” is a word-for-word quote from the catechism, paragraph 2358. It’s not some novelty (written around 1986 or so), but I’m sure the FR crowd will have an apoplectic hissy fit over it anyway.


27 posted on 06/27/2014 1:43:24 PM PDT by Campion
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It’s a slippery slope.


30 posted on 06/27/2014 6:52:18 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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do not discriminate, but do not approve of the homosexual lifestyle. The act is a sin.


33 posted on 06/28/2014 5:17:58 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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