[daniel1212]

I sense you seek opportunities to provoke arguments rather than create harmony. I question if your intent is to help bring the body of Christ together, or force it farther apart?

The LDS, and other anti-Trinitarian groups, are by definition not part of the Body of Christ, although they always make demands that they be considered so,

How dare you create division rather than harmony with these elitist exclusive "one true church" groups, rather than being like the poster who creates harmony by rejecting evidence for the Trinity by arguing texts that evidence Deity of the Spirit of God do not evidence personhood, and ones that evidence personhood do not testify to deity, and if one testifies to both then it does not count since some scholars reject it, or another could refer to a created person/being, even though neither any individual or collective texts teach that the Spirit was created, but was there in the beginning of creation. (Gn. 1:2)

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B. Masculine pronouns are used in reference to the Holy Spirit despite the fact that "Spirit" (Greek--pneuma) is neuter (John 14:26; 15:26; 16:8, 13f, Greek--ekeinos, literally, that One).

1. John 14:16-17-"And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; [that is] the Spirit of the truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, [but] you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you."
2. John 14:26-"But the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He [Gr. that one] will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."
3. John 15:26-"When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, [that is] the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, He will bear witness of Me."
4. John 16:7-8-"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. And He, when He comes, will convict the world..."
5. John 16:13-15-"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. He shall glorify Me; for He shall take of Mine, and shall disclose [it] to you. All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said, that He takes of Mine, and will disclose [it] to you."

   C. The Holy Spirit and Jesus are both our helper/lawyer between us and God:

   Jesus sent "another comforter": ("allos parakletos") Jn 14:16 Greek "allos" another of the same kind. Even if you reject that Jesus is God, another of the same kind as Jesus must be a person! The Arian view would require the word "hetros" another of a different kind. So the Holy Spirit is a person who is a "comforter, helper, advocate". Used of the Holy Spirit 5 times in John 14:26; 15:26; 16:7; 14:16 and once of Christ in 1 John 2:1. When we combine this with the fact that Jesus said the Holy Spirit was another helper, Gr "allos", "another of the same kind", the personality of the Holy Spirit is reinforced even stronger. The Greek word "parakletos" that is used in all these verses was always applied to persons, not things. So the fact that both Greek words "allos" and "parakletos" TOGETHER in the same phrase in reference to Jesus is irrefutable proof that the Holy Spirit is portrayed as a person. In Acts 9:31 Christians were "walking in the fear of the Lord and the comfort of the Holy Spirit." The word, "Comfort" [parakleses] is the verb form of the noun parakletos.

   D. The Holy Spirit can be fellowshipped:

   The Holy Spirit can be fellowshipped: "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all" 2 Cor 13:14. We are not saying that the word fellowship itself, demands the Holy Spirit is a person, but that a word that normally, but not always implies personality, is used in conjunction with two other known persons.

   E. The "Holy Spirit" is in contrast to "unholy Spirit", who are persons:

   The very term "Holy Spirit" is used in contrast to "unholy spirits" like demons and the devil: Mark 3:22-23; Mt 12:32; 1 Tim 4:1; 1 Jn 3:24-4:6. If "unholy or evil spirits" are persons, then the Holy Spirit is a person. This point applies to Jehovah's Witnesses but not Christadelphians, because the later do not even ascribe personality to the devil or demons, but view them as the personification of sin and disease respectively. The Spirit The Holy said: "set Barnabas & Saul apart for ME for the work to which I have called them." Acts 13:2 The Spirit the Wicked said to them: "I know Jesus and Paul, but who are you" Acts 19:15

   II. The Holy Spirit simply must be a person and is much more than God's power or active force:

   A. The Holy Spirit is outright said to have a mind which energy does not.

   1. Rom 8:27 He has a mind. (The Father who searches the heart of man knows the mind of the Holy Spirit who intercedes.)

   B. The Holy Spirit experience emotions, slights and injuries which energy does not.

   1. Mt 12:31 "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit " (blaspheme energy?)
   2. Heb 10:29 "and have insulted the Spirit" (insult energy?)
   3. Acts 5:3 "You have lied unto the Holy Spirit " (lie to energy?)
   4. Rom 15:30 "I urge you by the love of the Holy Spirit " (love energy?)
   5. Eph 4:30 (Isa 63:10) "and do not grieve the Holy Spirit" (grieve energy?)

   C. The Holy Spirit evaluates, reasons and chooses with intelligent freewill which energy cannot do.

   1. John 16:13 "He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak"
   2. Acts 15:28 "it seemed good to us and the Holy Spirit"
   3. 1 Cor 2:11 "He knows God's thoughts.
   4. Jn 16:13 "He will guide you"
   5. Acts 13:1-4 "being sent out by the Holy Spirit"
   6. Acts 16:6 "forbidden by the Holy Spirit to go to Asia"
   7. Acts 11:12 "He told Peter to go with Cornelius' men.
   8. Acts 8:39 "He "caught Phillip away."
   9. Matt 4:1; 1:12; Luke 4:11 He led Jesus into the wilderness.
   10. Acts 20:28 The Holy Spirit has made [appointed] you overseers."

   D. The Holy Spirit originates intelligent thought and speaks which energy cannot do.

   1. Acts 13:2 "the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them"
   2. 2 Pet 1:21 He guided men to write Scripture and speak from God. The words of the Bible itself were chosen by the Holy Spirit. Energy is not intelligent.
   3. Heb 9:8 "the Holy Spirit is indicating this."
   4. Heb 10:15-17 (Jer. 31:33-34) "And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying, "This is the covenant that I will make with them""
   5. Heb 3:7-11 (Ps. 95:7-11) Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says, "Today if you hear His voice
   6. Mark 13:11; 10:19-20 "it is not you who speak, but the Holy spirit"
   7. Acts 4:25 He spoke "by the mouth of David."
   8. Jn 16:13 "Whatever He hears He will speak" He will disclose to the apostles "things to come."
   9. Jn 16:14 "He shall glorify me"
   10. Rom 8:14 "being led by the Spirit of God"
   11. Rev 2:7,11,7,29; 3:6,13,22 "... let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
   12. Luke 2:26 "He revealed to Simeon he would see the Christ.
   13. 1 Cor 2:10 "for the Spirit searches the mind of God" Is the Holy Spirit merely a web crawler of information... a massive data base?
   14. Eph 3:5 "He reveals the mystery of Christ."
   15. 1 Pet 1:11 "Spirit of Christ" in the prophets "testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow."
   16. 1 Cor 2:13 "words taught by the Spirit"
   17. 1 Ti 4:1 "The Spirit explicitly says"
   18. Acts 2:4 He gave the Apostles "utterance."

   E. The Holy Spirit assists us in ways only another person could.

   1. Rom 8:26 "He helps our weaknesses"
   2. Rom 8:26 "He intercedes for us"
   3. John 14:16,17,26; 16:7 The helper, advocate, lawyer like Christ 1 Jn 2:1

   F. The Holy Spirit takes actions of intelligent freewill, which energy cannot do.

   1. 1 Cor 12:11 The Spirit decides (wills) what spiritual gift each will receive. Makes no sense if energy decides who it will give itself to!
   2. 1 Cor 12:11 ""the same Spirit works all these things."
   3. 1 Cor 2:10 "the Spirit searches all things"
   4. 2 Cor 3:6; Gal 6:8 "Shall from the Holy Spirit reap eternal life" Energy is not the source of life.
   5. Rev 22:17 "The Spirit and the Bride say come (invite)"
   6. 1 Cor 12:13 "He baptizes us into Christ."

   G. The Holy Spirit bears witness in a pattern that always involves a person:

   1. The "Holy Spirit" is said to speak ("The Holy Spirit Says") , then quotes an Old Testament verse, is a pattern found throughout the New Testament proving He is a person: This is a function of bearing witness to scripture itself and always involves a person.
   2. The "Holy Spirit says" in Heb 10:15-17 which is a quote from Jer 31:33-34.
   3. "The Holy Spirit says" in Heb 3:7-11 which is a quote from Ps 95:7-11.
   4. "Moses says, 'I will make you jealous '" in Rom 10:19 which is a quote from Deut. 32:21
   5. "And Isaiah is very bold and says, "I was found by those who sought Me not'" in Rom 10:20 which is a quote from Is 65:1.

      III. The Holy Spirit is a divine person, like the Father

      A. The Holy Spirit is outright Called God:

      1. Acts 5:3-4 "You have lied unto the Holy Spirit ... you have lied to God"
      2. Mt 12:28; Lk 11:20 "If I cast out demons by the Spirit of God ... finger of God"
      3. 2 Cor. 3:17-18 "The Lord is the Spirit"

B. The Holy Spirit shares Qualities that only God possesses:

1. Eternal like the Father: Heb 9:14
2. Omnipresent like the Father: Ps 139:7
3. Omniscient like the Father: 1 Cor 2:10-11

C. The Holy Spirit is divine in power:

1. To create: Ps 104:30 "Thou send forth thy Spirit, they were CREATED."
2. To work miracles: 1 Cor 12:11
3. To inspire prophets: 2 Pe 1:21 "men MOVED by the HOLY SPIRIT spoke from God"

D. The Holy Spirit is divine in character:

1. Heb 9:14 "Who through" the ETERNAL Spirit"
2. Neh 9:20 "Thy GOOD Spirit"
3. He is omnipresent: Ps 139:7­10 "Where can I flee from thy Spirit"
4. He is all knowing: 1 Cor 2:11 "The Spirit searches the mind of God"

   More: http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-holy-spirit-personality-deity.htm

[Elsie]

Well; all that is just your opinion.