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1 posted on 07/08/2014 6:07:48 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
So where are the 'separation of church and state' bleating atheists now?


2 posted on 07/08/2014 6:12:31 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: marshmallow

If the court rules against the priest and the priest complies he will lose his abilities to function as a priest.


3 posted on 07/08/2014 6:13:53 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: marshmallow
Disconcerting to say the least. Another big govt bullying over reach.
4 posted on 07/08/2014 6:16:57 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: marshmallow

**forcing such testimony “attacks the seal of confession,” a sacrament that “cuts to the core of the Catholic faith.”**

This won’t be done. This is the one way a priest dooms himself to hell. He cannot and will not break the Seal of Confession.


5 posted on 07/08/2014 6:25:59 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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6 posted on 07/08/2014 6:27:06 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

When told the decision could pave the way for Planned Parenthood and other abortionists having to provide the names of those paying for the abortions of minor girls to see if statutory rape was involved, the Louisiana Supreme Court added an addendum to their decision reading, “Oh .... scratch this decision.”


7 posted on 07/08/2014 6:39:29 AM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: marshmallow

It is clear that governments have decided to take over and subvert church sacraments. And for too long, the churches have allowed them to do this.

Governments do this for two reasons: first and foremost to gain control over the secular and spiritual lives of the faithful; and second, to strip the sacraments of their sanctity. That sacredness is issued by bureaucrats, not heaven.

The basis of doing this is the oldest sin, that of vanity, to challenge God for supremacy in the universe. Lucifer did it, but time and again, men seek to do it as well, often to their detriment.

In the last century, some governments have tried to assert omnipotence. Today, the US government seeks omniscience, to see all, that nothing can happen beyond their surveillance.

Nimrod thought thought to build a tower to heaven, so that he could ascend it and be like God. It didn’t work too well for him or his people.

The most recent attack in the US is against the sacrament of marriage; and you can see how determined its corrupters are to do so, that they can somehow steal the riches from within the sacrament, like killing the golden goose for its eggs.

Just recently, Australia decided to strip the sanctity of the confessional, and not missing a trick, now the Supreme Court of Louisiana does so. It won’t be long before other US courts do so.

It will be claimed that it is no different from the stripping of doctor-patient confidentiality by HIPAA, under Bill Clinton and a bipartisan congress.

We can but pray that this priest will take a determined stand, and be imprisoned before he will break the seal of the confessional. We can but hope that his bishop Robert W. Muench, will support him in this trial.


8 posted on 07/08/2014 6:58:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: marshmallow

And if he refuses to comply, what are they going to do? Lock up a priest?!?


9 posted on 07/08/2014 7:27:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Arthur McGowan

Are either of you aware of previous attacks by the courts on the Seal?


22 posted on 07/08/2014 9:10:29 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: marshmallow

My bride and I talked about this.

With the current mandatory reporting laws, it may be argued that the priest/penitent seal is not covered. For many things, the old doctor/patient or client/lawyer privilege are no longer considered sealed, and haven’t been for a while now.

I will have to look at this case in more detail, but if it involves what is considered a “mandatory report” thing such as child abuse, sexual assault, or what not, the law may be that the priest is expected to report.


31 posted on 07/08/2014 9:27:42 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: marshmallow
The case stems from a claim by parents of a minor that their daughter confessed to Bayhi during the sacrament of reconciliation that she engaged in inappropriate sexual behavior with grown man who also attended their church. Court documents indicate the child was 12 years old at the time of the alleged sexual abuse

Then this does fall under the mandatory reporting laws.

Legally, according to most state and Federal law, if the priest had knowledge of on going sexual assault he is obligated to report it. I do not know of a recent case like this involving the seal of confession, but IF he knew about it from information beyond the confessional, he must legally report.

Makes the argument for anonymous confession a lot stronger.
32 posted on 07/08/2014 9:32:42 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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