Posted on 07/09/2014 2:46:02 PM PDT by ealgeone
Following the details of the multiplication of the loaves and fishes--biographical, Jesus walking on the sea--biographical, Jesus reacts to the crowds' need for signs. Jesus takes them from manna, bread from heaven, to "true bread from heaven (v. 32)" ... "I am the bread (v. 35)." "I am the bread that came down from heaven (v. 41)." This is God saying this: "I am the bread that came down from heaven." If He was not really the bread that came down from heaven, His omnipotent and creative Word would then have made it so.
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So do you acknowledge that non-Catholics repeatedly and often take verses out of context in trying to prove a point?
Let me be clear...if anyone, catholic or not, takes any verse out of context that is wrong. As to the frequency of this happening I don't know. I can however, show where the RCC has done this in many situations....two I've noted on this discussion.
I remember some of the "televangelists" who would do this and it caused grievous dispersions on Christianity.
Some denominations get hung up on speaking in tongues. If they would read the account at Pentecost, they would understand this better.
The key to proper Biblical understanding is exegesis...not eisogesis. Unfortunately a lot of people practice the latter. This often leads to error and false doctrine. I tell the class I teach that you can take any verse out of context and build a theology around it.
Another problem is a lack of understanding the Greek and the Hebrew. Without a solid understanding of these languages you miss out on a lot of truths in the Bible.
Fyi...I've completed two Greek classes and getting ready for the Hebrew. That's going to be fun! I'm not a Greek scholar by any means, but what little I've learned has really deepened my understanding of the NT.
It amazes me the lack of use of these languages in the church today. It's like practicing medicine without having attending medical school.
For me personally, when I study the Bible or teach lessons, I do my upmost to keep things in their proper context.
Why? As a teacher I will be held to a higher degree of accountability than the class I teach.
We have faith in Christ. We trust in His word. "This is My Body." The protestant puts faith only in their own understanding. It's quite fickle. "Oh, this passage speaks to me. Oh, and so does this one." Or when you get two protestants talking about their favorite protestant exegetist, "I like how so and so emphasizes x, y, z, etc." It's all about personal preference with protestants. Cherrypicking and hop-scotching their way through scripture until they arrive at some bastardized structure that informs their theological view. The protestant has no faith outside of themself. That's the consequence of setting oneself up as the arbiter of Truth.
Your religion can create its own authority which it did
The authority comes from Christ. Only the obstinate fails to recognize this Truth. The sin of pride that follows when one sets themselves up as the authority to determine what is and what is not.
And, your religion can claim divine revelation all it wants even tho there's not a lick of evidence that there ever was any divine revelation in your religion...
You mean like the Doctrines of the Trinity or the Doctrines on Christ's nature? Yeah I'm sure the "spirit-filled" protestant would have arrived at these Truths of the Faith on their own. The saying goes, if you can read this, thank a teacher. Well, if you believe in the Trinity, thank the Catholic Church. Johnny come-lately's, standing on the shoulders of great and faithful Christians who devoted their lives to Christ.
We know that every thing we need to know about our church and our salvation is written within the books of the scriptures...
Salvation is in Christ, not a book. Do protestants worship Christ or a book?
I am just happy as could be knowing that your religion chose an unbiblical name for itself...It could have stolen the name of Holy Christian Church but more than likely God wouldn't let that happen...
LOL what inanity. Just another example of the immaturity of protestants showcasing that they are nothing but disobedient children. But the Catholic Church, which is Christ's Church, is loving and patient and will be here until the end of the world awaiting the return of its lost sheep.
Yours clearly is not the church described within the scriptures...While some Protestant denominations vary in their interpretations of the scriptures, they still try to follow the scriptures, ONLY...That puts the worse Protestant church out there well ahead of the Catholic religion...
I'll keep that in mind the next time some protestant biblical scholar finds scriptural warrant for homosexual sodomy. As an individual, I'll try not to engage in schadenfreude over the next 40-50 years as I watch the protestant world continue to factionalize and splinter itself even further due to the assault of the secular culture.
The Holy Roman Catholic Church will still be here when protestants have decided they've had enough of being their own authority and are ready to surrender themselves to Christ and His Church.
That's true, but your victory is that you and your church will have whored after the False Christ and his church. You shouldn't go there.
The lunatic fringe of pre/post-trib rapture whatever speaks.
As does the liars of this world.
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