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To: ealgeone
The problem with this is that the authors have taken this out of context to make the text say something it doesn't.

They have left out verses 61,62,63,64,and 65

60Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this said, “This is a difficult statement; who can listen to it?”

61But Jesus, conscious that His disciples grumbled at this, said to them, “Does this cause you to stumble?

62“What then if you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?

63“It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

64“But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him.

65And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.”

66As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore.

67So Jesus said to the twelve, “You do not want to go away also, do you?”

68Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life.

69“We have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God.”

70Jesus answered them, “Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?”

71Now He meant Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he, one of the twelve, was going to betray Him.

The authors suggest many of the disciples left Him after verse 60. Yet, when read in context Jesus goes on to say some would not believe. It was after verse 65 when He said on one can come to Him unless it has been given granted him from the Father.

This is when many of the disciples withdrew from Him....not because He was talking about flesh and blood.

3 posted on 07/09/2014 2:55:11 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: ealgeone

“As a result of this” refers only to verse 65? Doubt it; context is your friend. It refers to the whole episode.


5 posted on 07/09/2014 3:23:51 PM PDT by Campion
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