Posted on 07/31/2014 9:30:00 AM PDT by Morgana
St. Marianne Cope's remains will arrive in a hearse Thursday at Cathedral of Our Lady of Peace in downtown Honolulu for a ceremony and Mass.
In this 1883 file photo provided by the Sisters of St. Francis of the Neumann Communities, Mother Marianne Cope, a nun who dedicated her life to caring for exiled leprosy patients on Kalaupapa in Hawaii, poses for a photographer.AP Photo: Sisters of St. Francis of the Neumann Communities, File
In this 1883 file photo provided by the Sisters of St. Francis of the Neumann Communities, Mother Marianne Cope, a nun who dedicated her life to caring for exiled leprosy patients on Kalaupapa in Hawaii, poses for a photographer.
She was 80 when died of natural causes in 1918 at the remote Kalaupapa peninsula on the island of Molokai, where the Hawaiian kingdom exiled leprosy patients to control the disease. Her remains were exhumed from Kalaupapa in 2005 during her canonization process and taken to Syracuse, New York, where her religious congregation is based.
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No one “becomes” a saint after they die. If they haven’t achieved this in life, they missed the boat.
How does the Roman Catholic Church determine sainthood? [Catholic Caucus]
How Many Miracles are Required to Canonize a Saint?
Saints [Catholic, Orthodox, Open]
SAINTHOOD 101: Rules for Becoming a Saint [Catholic Caucus]
The Process of Becoming a Saint (Canonization) [Catholic Caucus]
Pope Lists Criteria for Causes of Canonization
So, it sounds like they were saints before dying, the Church just had to come to the realization of that after the fact?
Is that the case?
Read the 101 link
Too bad none of that is biblical.
In fact, it is heretical.
In researching my family’s history, I discovered that one of my grandfather’s German cousins (b. in Rhineland in 1868) had served the Leper colony on Molokai for about 40 years. He joined the Congregation of the sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary in Louvain, Belgium, and arrived on Molokai in 1898.
So after doing some research, I managed to verify this fact through pictures and written correspondence with the Congregation of the Sacred Hearts on Oahu. Although my relative did not meet Fr. Damian deVeuster (who died in 1889), he did work alongside Sr. Marianne Cope for many years.
I have tremendous interest in anyone associated with the Molokai settlement. Thanks for posting this.
Too bad none of that is biblical.
In fact, it is heretical.
The word ‘Saint’ comes from ‘sanctify’ which also means being holy. The RC Church canonizes saints for the purpose of promoting piety through the emulation of the person’s spiritual characteristics, such as devotion to Jesus as their Savior, performing works of mercy, both spiritual and corporal, etc.. In other words, being the hands and feet of Jesus on earth.
So, do you have a problem with calling the apostles saints?
Do you have a problem calling ME a saint?
I have a problem with the RCC concocting arbitrary, unbiblical rules for dead people (people who have passed on.)
>>>Too bad none of that is biblical.<<<
No it isn’t.
>>>it is heretical.<<<
You have been provided with information on what the Church teaches. Since you have no authority to declare what is or is not doctrine I’d say your statement as to what is heretical or not is a display of hubris.
It’s not so much unbiblical as extra-biblical. That’s fine, except when concocted doctrine contradicts Scripture. The Roman Church does this in spades.
“Hubris” is just another way to name call.
Actually, why don’t you take a look at this woman’s life and deeds and decide for yourself - and ask yourself if you could do what she did?
Did what she did make her a saint? If you think that, you are no Christian.
What a connection! Your own family......wow!
We’ve been to the St. Augustine Church right on the “strip” of Waikiki, and there’s a small but quite interesting museum in honor of Fr. Damien in the rear.
There are some 10,000 saints as of last count published.
I’m not Catholic, not even very religious, but I am aware of this woman who has had many stories written about her and even historical references in films I have seen.
Just wondering what your beef is? Not that it’s important, but I’m just intellectually curious.
My "beef" isn't with this woman, whom I am sure was very godly despite being engrossed in Catholicism. My issue is with the Catholic "requirements" for becoming a "saint."
Where do they get this stuff? And don't say from God.
“Where do they get this stuff? And don’t say from God”
OK,,,,I see where you are going with that.
Personally I don’t much care what rules or internal politics a Church may or may not have. Not because I approve of it, but that I can’t do anything about even if I did not approve of it.
Like state governments or even private clubs, churches worship God in their way, and set their own rules for how they do that, and how they retain and spiritually nourish their members.(man’s laws, not necessarily God’s)
I have been to a lot of different churches in my life and find that sometimes their rules and behaviors are totally unacceptable to me and others times I approve, but eventually I will find something, some rule, some people to be unacceptable or uncomfortable to me so I no longer participate in any one organized religion or church. Works fine for me, perhaps not everyone.
But at the same time, I don’t criticize them either because it’s just not productive. They will survive or fail on their own merits without any assistance from me.
That’s just my two cents worth..But I do understand what you are saying.
Your own personal brand of Christianity has died out numerous times only to reappear in some new heresy somewhere else.
Meanwhile, the Catholic Church will still be there, watching more heresies get buried for the false presumptions they hold.
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