Posted on 08/04/2014 2:12:23 AM PDT by markomalley
Who needs the 7th "mother"? Behold, the artificial womb (from the Annals of the New York Academy of Science)
My beautiful triplet nieces turn 24 next month. They were conceived via IVF, one of modern medicine’s true miracles. Perhaps you can come over to their birthday party and tell them how awful it is that they walk the earth.
My IVF-conceived twin boys would have a blast at your nieces’ party! :)
My husband’s and my twins are healthy, happy, well-behaved, homeschooled, learning to think for themselves, and — I hope — future conservatives. I don’t think we have too much to apologize for.
The joy that my nieces have brought to the lives of everyone around them, particularly my brother and sister-in-law, is incalculable. I’m sure the same is true of your twins. As for the girls’ politics, though, I’m not sure they really have any. But they’re young.
Msgr Pope ping
Three questions just for curiosity sake:
How many of the mother’s eggs were fertilized?
What happened to the blastocysts that were not implanted?
Are there plans to implant the remaining blastocysts?
No idea. I’m their uncle, not their father. All I know is that these girls wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for this technology.
I have observed before that this is a society in which a person will do absolutely anything, including kill, to avoid having a baby ... right up to the moment the same person will do anything, including kill, to have a baby.
Catholics aren’t against all fertility treatments — only those that involve the destruction of embryos, obtaining genetic material through means that go against Catholic teaching, and/or “selective reduction”. The latter is a “polite” way of saying abortion. Many times, more than one embryo is implanted and many don’t survive or are culled if found to have abnormalities. I am not sure how anyone can call any of the practices above harmless or OK. The means do not justify the ends.
Raising kids requires sacrifice and that isn't Mr and Mrs Instant Gratification's thing.
I think that the ideology of “choice” is very dangerous when it applies to children. It renders every life contingent, in a way, even after they’re born. “If you hadn’t chosen to have that baby, then ... blah blah blah,” as if you’re expected to go back in time and “un-choose” his life.
It’s creepy and scary.
Do either of you think the God who turned His own crucifixion into salvation for the world couldn’t bring beautiful new souls into the world through IVF?
The blessings gained from the act notwithstanding, the act was immoral to begin with.
Even if no embryos are destroyed, IVF is intrinsically immoral because you have to commit a mortal sin to obtain the seed.
Doctors should be doing everything they can to help couples conceive naturally instead of sticking their pipettes in the middle.
Even if their parents have the best will in the world for them, they turned them into commodities by the way they were conceived.
Nobody on this forum has yet willed total machine-based "hatchery" gestation; and yet many have willed every single incremental step that will lead up to this horrific conclusion.
I can’t think of anything more intrinsically pro-life than the fact that these girls, and their future children, grandchildren etc. are among us. And they are anything but commodities.
While the couple admitted they had a baby girl about the same age as baby Gammy and that they had used a surrogate, they say she did not have a twin brother.
Australian couple claim they are not the parents of baby Gammy — born to a Thai surrogate
Ping!
**Even fewer seem to care that it is children who going to be born into this utter chaos and who are having a social experiment foisted upon them, with they themselves as the guinea pigs. No, who cares about them, haven’t you gotten the memo that this world is all about adults and what they want?**
Only what the parents want — no consideration for the children.
Except that they will never know their real biological father.
Very well put.
**and their future children, grandchildren etc. are among us**
They say that this is where the problems show up.
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