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Why Does God Allow Christians to Suffer?
The Relevant Christian Magazine ^ | 7/31/14 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 08/10/2014 9:31:05 AM PDT by OneVike

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To: metmom
My ONLY option is divine healing. In the meantime, it’s been a real struggle.

I am so sorry to hear that you are having a rough summer. I lost my dearly. dearly beloved husband to a heart attack quite suddenly this summer. He was only 61. Finances and business matters are a very major mess. What the Lord has been showing me, and what this summer is really driving home is that it is not stuff, or people, or health that gives us true peace and joy. It is the Lord Jesus Christ having his way in our lives.

In God's providential and perfect care of his people, he is always working so that we are being conformed to the image of his son. The lyrics that the Lord just keeps putting on my heart these last very painful 6 weeks are:

Let goods and kindred go
This mortal life also
(as in my lifestyle)
The body they may kill
God's Truth abideth still
His kingdom is forever.

No matter how much the hurt, my soul is at peace. It was the minute I found him because I know that God takes perfect care of his people. So much so that Jesus suffered and died for us. As great is my grief right now, I know that it is just a portion of the grief that the Lord feels for the sins that cause separation of his people from him, much less that same pain that Christ endured for us.

In the end run - To God be the glory.

81 posted on 08/11/2014 4:41:47 AM PDT by lupie
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To: OneVike

Think of what you consider to be the greatest human qualities: courage, compassion, friendship, the ability to heal, etc. These qualities, and others, demonstrate the highest value of mankind. None of these qualities can exist without adversity, or, at least, the qualities are enhanced by adversity. There is no courage without conflict. There is no compassion without sadness or strife. There is no healing without sickness or injury.

God did not create a “flat” earth. There are mountains and valleys, hills and plains. The weather changes. There is calm and there are storms.


82 posted on 08/11/2014 4:48:45 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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Partially true because of sin. Before then fall of man the world was different and there was no pain, no sorrow, no sickness, no death.

No diversity existed because the universe was in perfect harmony with God. hen things became as they are now. So to day we have one because of the other is partially true.

We have one because we chose diversity over perfection, and with diversity comes trials and tribulations. But not by God’s choice, ours.


83 posted on 08/11/2014 6:57:32 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: lupie

I’m so sorry to hear about the loss of your husband.

Sixty-one is waaayyy too young.

You are so right that all that counts is Jesus.


84 posted on 08/11/2014 7:46:16 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: lupie
** I lost my dearly. dearly beloved husband to a heart attack quite suddenly this summer. He was only 61.**

So sorry to hear about your husband dying. Part of my story is on my FR homepage.

Try this weekend -- it can be so healing. Perhaps there is one in your area.

Beginning Experience, a peer facilitated weekend for those who are grieving the loss of a loved one

85 posted on 08/11/2014 8:06:57 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: OneVike

God is a great teacher if you pay attention. He must get disgusted with having to teach the same lessons over and over every few generations.

I know He has a sense of humor since He has allowed me to walk the earth. I can see Him on His throne looking down at our unending Darwin Awards as they happen, I hope he finds some humor in our antics, not just sadness.


86 posted on 08/11/2014 10:29:18 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: ClearCase_guy

....”To have free will, and to be able to actually make choices implies that we might make bad choices. And surprise! We do make bad choices. Then we suffer. If God wanted to eliminate all suffering, He would have to eliminate all freedom. He makes a choice on our behalf, and that choice is to allow us to choose as well, because we are made in His image”.....

Yes...and just to add to this....as Christians we never get the full measure of what our bad decisions deserve...God shows us great Mercy.


87 posted on 08/11/2014 10:32:53 AM PDT by caww
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To: INVAR
....”I think the more Our Father in Heaven allows us to suffer trials, the more He is perfecting that person for the Office Jesus Christ is preparing for them to inherit for eternity”.....

I agree but it is not always an easy thing to discern....some things have nothing to do with our choices...like the body aging, something we cannot escape from. Other times it's like a boomerang..it comes back on us. Giving thanks is not easy but I have learned to thank him when I don't understand because he knows what these things or happenings are and what purpose he will make of them.

88 posted on 08/11/2014 10:40:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: OneVike

Because God is not a rapist. Love is voluntary. Compulsory ‘love’ is rape. Our ability to go through life, discover God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit, and choose to believe in His love for us, and how He expressed that love for us is a gift, not a curse.

That life is painful is a choice our parents made for us (Adam and Eve), and one we make for our children. That’s not God’s fault.


89 posted on 08/11/2014 10:48:12 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs ((What is the R0 of Ebola Guinea?))
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To: metmom

Interesting, because up until about 6 years ago I never had problems from reacting to food in a bad way, but since then i find myself breaking out in hives from time to time.

I am currently going through all the tests and studies to find out what is causing them So far the hives have been in a rash form or big welts. Nothing seems to make sense, it never happens under the same environment, and it is getting worse.

I was recently given a couple of EpiPens for emergency in case my throat get swollen from the hives.

As it is I have never fully recovered from the spinal surgery I had two years ago. I now wish I never agreed to it. For me, God has allowed me to learn from my wife.

For 27 years she has been in a wheelchair from the accident we were in when we were still dating. Seeing how she has persevered gives me the strength I need to continue.

God bless you, and I will keep you in my prayers


90 posted on 08/11/2014 11:27:08 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: lupie

I will keep you in my prayers. I am 58 next month, and also I agree that 61 is much too young.

Being a paraplegic, my wife would be forced to sell the home and move into town while hoping for others to help her with her needs.

I will pray for you in your situation, and my condolences on losing you husband.


91 posted on 08/11/2014 11:31:40 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: caww

All we need to remember is that Our Abba, Father will work out all things for good - even if we cannot see it that way.

In the book of Job, God uses Satan himself to work righteousness in Job and get Job to see himself as God does.

We may not understand why God allows children to be beheaded by animals hell bent on subjugation, we have to trust He has the end-result in perfect sight and that everything works towards that end.

For our days are like the grass - and one day - everything we know and is, will melt with fervent heat. This flesh is not meant to last. It never was.


92 posted on 08/11/2014 2:11:08 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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