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Libertarians and the Church
Catholic Analysis ^ | 30 August 2014 | Matthew Olson

Posted on 08/30/2014 3:01:15 AM PDT by matthewrobertolson

I have argued before that, in their fullest, libertarianism and Catholicism are incompatible -- but to what degree are they so?

Leaders of the libertarian movement have certainly said silly, anti-Catholic things. Ludwig von Mises, for example, compared Christ to the Bolshevists and also said, "..[I]t is the resistance which the Church has offered to the spread of liberal ideas which has prepared the soil for the destructive resentment of modern socialist thought" (Socialism, Chapter 29). Translation: opposition to liberalism of one stripe must be blamed for inspiring liberalism of another. Huh?

Much of the conflict between libertarians and the Church can be traced back to key misunderstandings. Mises assumed the worst and demanded that the Church accept "the indispensability of private ownership in the means of production" (Socialism). The thing is, She already does: that is what distributism is all about.

This conflict need not be so heated, because both sides have mutual points of interest. And you can see this in some of the writings of the famous Murray Rothbard.

Rothbard noted in his Memorandum on Catholicism, Protestantism, and Capitalism (1957) that Protestantism had resulted in the elevation of work itself as "divine" and over the worker, causing a serious perversion of economics. He considered Catholic thought on the subject, overall, to be superior to ideas based in the supposed "Protestant work ethic". This is a huge admission, especially given the time period and the strength of misconception -- still in force today -- on that topic.

But he went even further, in Readings on Ethics and Capitalism: Part I: Catholicism (1960). He said that much of the Church's teaching is "fundamentally libertarian and pro-capitalist", mentioning later therein that it has "been interpreted (by Ropke, Baudin) as compatible with capitalism".

Rothbard admired Rerum Novarum's emphasis on Man over the State, its condemnation of socialism, and its insistence on "the absolute right of the individual to private property", which he recognized as "derived from natural law, the nature of man". He had his frustrations with Quadragesimo Anno, though. He said that the Church had a "fascist tendency" in response to the World Wars, about which he was not thrilled. He saw Pius XI as undoing Leo XIII's work. But the idea of Pius "misinterpreting" Leo here, on social justice, is absurd. Leo himself lamented the "misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class" and made multiple comments about it in his own letter. Both pontiffs demanded a return to Christian principles and worked to ensure "that a high standard of morality should prevail, both in public and private life".

Where he critiques Pius, Rothbard is not very well-grounded. Pius held concern for "those who needed [workers' associations] most to defend themselves from ill treatment at the hands of the powerful", yes, but that hardly makes him a socialist. Still, I do not blame Rothbard too much for these mistakes. Leftists like Franklin D. Roosevelt had been trying to take advantage of Pius' letter. For clarification, one merely has to look at Pope St. John Paul II's Centesimus Annus.

John Paul recognized transactions "mutually agreed upon through free bargaining" as "important source[s] of wealth in modern society", and affirmed them as long as they were subject to "the judgment of Christ". He wrote, "It would appear that, on the level of individual nations and of international relations, the free market is the most efficient instrument for utilizing resources and effectively responding to needs. But this is true only for those needs which are 'solvent', insofar as they are endowed with purchasing power, and for those resources which are 'marketable', insofar as they are capable of obtaining a satisfactory price. But there are many human needs which find no place on the market. It is a strict duty of justice and truth not to allow fundamental human needs to remain unsatisfied, and not to allow those burdened by such needs to perish. It is also necessary to help these needy people to acquire expertise, to enter the circle of exchange, and to develop their skills in order to make the best use of their capacities and resources. Even prior to the logic of a fair exchange of goods and the forms of justice appropriate to it, there exists something which is due to man because he is man, by reason of his lofty dignity. Inseparable from that required 'something' is the possibility to survive and, at the same time, to make an active contribution to the common good of humanity."

So, Rothbard clearly respected the Church's teaching on economic matters, but just failed to look at some of it in the fullest context. The Church is not necessarily hostile toward capitalism. She just wants safe-guards put in place -- and for them to be put in place at the lowest possible level, in subsidiarity.

On another issue -- secularism -- Rothbard argued a most interesting point: by demanding respect for human dignity and the natural law, the Church limited the power of the State to a degree that made libertarianism -- in practice, at least -- more possible. (Take that, statists!) This is no surprise, really. Monarchies, favored in Catholic countries, traditionally, have spent less than 10% of their GDP on average. Secular democracies, meanwhile, tend to turn into welfare states. Monarchs, usually, are more responsible.

With all of this in mind, a logical libertarian simply could never support those who (to, again, quote Rothbard in 1957) "place their theology -- and their ethic -- on a more emotional, or direct Revelation, basis". Protestantism is intellectually stunted, and, in many ways, it disables people. We know that. Consider the inherent subjectivity of the religion: Everyone is individualized by their own interpretation of a book of which they, typically, have hardly any knowledge. This shatters community, destroys economics, and benefits only secularism. Liberty cannot thrive in such an environment.

Libertarians, join the Church.

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To: HarleyD
A couple more:
Catholics 'more likely to back state economic intervention' [European Central Bank study]
How theology ties into economics

41 posted on 08/31/2014 7:01:33 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

These are good posts. I really liked the one “Is Obama thinking like a Catholic”. Except on abortion, I often wondered if the Catholics are thinking like Obama.


42 posted on 09/01/2014 3:49:56 AM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: matthewrobertolson

the Judeo-Christian view of politics starts with Joshua. About to cross the Jordan after 40 years in the wilderness, Joshua said “Choose you this day whom you will serve. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”
1. Whom you serve is a choice..not an echo.
2. ME is the 1st level of government.
3. My household is the 2d level of government. If you are under my roof, you will obey my rules.
4. If you are not under my roof, make your own choice.
In the next phase of “evolution”, public opinion wanted a King like all the other peoples had. Samuel warned the people that they would regret that request. One of the first “Becareful what you wish for”. So they got their king. The first king started ok but then turned bad. By the 4th King, 10 out of 12 “states” seceded from the Kingdom because they didn’t like the oppressive taxes and incide the beltway advisors of the King.
5. The New testament repeats Joshua. Jesus wasn’t there to create a Roman style kingdom. He was there to again emphasize personal choice. Each person chooses for himself whether to repent, believe, be baptized and recieve the Holy Spirit.
6. That Biblical teaching is the basis for the Judeo-Christian culture.
7. Heresies (sinful desires) have entered the Judeo-Christian tradition from time to time.
8. “MY BROTHER’S KEEPER” is the current dominant heresy. God asked Cain a question. Cain did not like the question and tried to deflect the conversation by asking a non-sequitor: Am I my brother’s keeper. Currently, many who claim the Judeo-Christian label base their heresy on the false premise created by Cain. The truth is I am my brother’s brother; not my brother’s keeper. Keepers keep animals in zoos, or specimens in collections. Keepers keep slaves on plantations. It used to be that some slave keepers beat their slaves. But Christian Keeper theology of Rev JJ and Rev AS and entire seminaries is that we should be nice and kind to others on the plantation and not beat them.
9. When a plantation dweller is beaten as in Democrat Ferguson of Democrat St Louis County under Democrat Governor with the hated name Nixon, that is not Christian. That is not what we all understood was the social contract between people on the plantation. We understood that when the oppressed act a certain way it is because we have been less than perfect keepers of the plantation. We must redouble our efforts to be better keepers of the plantation.
10. Many both on the plantation,and who have chosen to leave the plantation do not understand the above 9 points. They see the religion of some and conclude that is the religion of all.
11. (There are other heresies, sinful choices of those who claim the Judeo-Christian tradition. But above is the dominant heresy in the US right now.)


43 posted on 09/06/2014 6:47:20 PM PDT by spintreebob (()
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