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1 posted on 09/20/2014 4:05:25 PM PDT by HarleyD
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Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?


2 posted on 09/20/2014 4:21:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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At some point, divine justice is all you can hope and pray for. “Turn the other cheek” is what we’re told to do, but that involves a certain context. It doesn’t mean let someone go on a killing rampage if the only way to stop them is to kill them instead.

But more to the point, I couldn’t understand once why Jesus said “love thy enemy”. What sense does that make? But if you are only kind to those who are kind to you, and cruel to those cruel to you, what good is it? That’s what everyone does. That’s what animals do. It requires no effort, no sacrifice, and no one wonders why you did it.


3 posted on 09/20/2014 4:26:21 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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“What is best in life?...Conan.”
“To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.”
“Good.”


4 posted on 09/20/2014 4:34:52 PM PDT by EEGator
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“Love thy enemy” also means to fight without hatred. To fight because you are following God’s law, and that’s all. To disengage from personal rancor and pray for the person who has fallen into so much evil that you are required to fight them, without taking it personally.

Needless to say, it’s easier said than done.

But it’s also the flip side of not fighting back and letting evil people walk all over you simply because liberals keep insisting that Jesus was a wimp. And is it really all that confusing that evil interprets this teachng as not fighting back at all? Otherwise it would get its @ss kicked.


5 posted on 09/20/2014 5:07:50 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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45, 50 cal and 20MM!!!


6 posted on 09/20/2014 6:09:29 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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The Saints pray for justice in Revelation, but it’s much more manifold than our personally receiving retribution.

Those innocents who are being slaughtered need justice to be at peace

For them, justice is mercy.

This is consistent with the essentially undifferentiated Nature of God.

His Justice is His Mercy.


8 posted on 09/20/2014 7:35:17 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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Need this.


10 posted on 09/20/2014 8:27:12 PM PDT by Oratam
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What does the Bible say?

And what did Jesus say ?
11 posted on 09/20/2014 8:33:48 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Very good.


13 posted on 09/22/2014 5:56:23 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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Very interesting. Sometimes all I can pray is even so Lord come quickly. Let's not forget that in this confusing age a vast array of denomination and worship styles etc. We have many enemies that are close to home that we may actually encounter and meet on a daily basis.

It's how we handle the enemies that are closest to us that really matter. Do we pray for them and show them that Jesus loved and died for them? That is more important than ginning up good feelings for people we never meet. Of course our prayers need know no bounds.

I think C S Lewis talks about this in the Screwtape letters, but I don't have it handy to confirm.

18 posted on 09/23/2014 12:26:51 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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3 Ways to Pray for Our Enemies

May those who love us, love us;
and those who don't love us,
may God turn their hearts;
and if He doesn't turn their hearts,
may He turn their ankles
so we'll know them by their limping.

19 posted on 09/23/2014 12:31:49 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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