Posted on 10/23/2014 1:37:07 PM PDT by Gamecock
“Did you read the entire article?”
NO just an old guy that relies on my memory some of the time.
“Nov. 21, 1974 - National Conference of Catholic Bishops Publicly Opposes Death Penalty”
“The National Conference of Catholic Bishops speaks out against capital punishment in a reversal of the traditional Roman Catholic Church position supporting the death penalty as a legitimate means of self-protection for the state.”
I am answering your questions. You are ignoring what I clearly wrote.
Does God deny the state the right to terminate a man’s life, knowing that it will terminate any chance the man has of repenting? Of course not! God made it clear a just law WILL do that!
There are not 2 Gods - one from the OT and one from the New. Jesus isn’t God v.2. God hasn’t changed. What we claim is our compassion is really our immorality and sin nature, rejecting God.
This guy is rocketing down the list of my favorites. In fact, he has hit the floor.
And what about the rest of the posted article. Lot more there than capital punishment!
I understand.
The Poop needs to be run through the Scared Straight program.
i am so tired that yet again this is somehow the media’s fault for mistranslating what he’s saying.
i don’t believe it’s the media’s fault anymore. it falls on him.
he didn’t say life in prison was the death penalty and that should go away, too.
absolutely nothing wrong with the death penalty whatsoever.
and even if this was correct, let’s examine current mexico and see how that’s working out for them.
the only thing i’d adopt from mexico is their extremely strict laws on immigration and foreign property holders.
you can repent before. like everyone else.
if you can explain how he’s been taken out of context here, have at it.
we’ve had so many popes that speak multiple languages before and this ‘mistranslation’ excuse was not trotted out. namely because they weren’t saying things like francis actually says.
it’s not a mistranslation problem - that excuse has worn thin.
i’m for speedy trial and speedy executions. none of this decades on death row/dying on death row crap. one week max before execution carried out. bullet to the head.
Francis goes further. He wants to end life sentences, also, while still giving Holy Communion to adulterers and pro-aborts.
she can’t face the truth. it has nothing to do with mistranslation. notice this excuse never surfaced with prior recent popes, who spoke in other languages than english.
punishment and forgiveness aren’t identical things.
punishment is part of ensuring fair justice is done. having a just punishment meted out is a necessary component for most people to be able to forgive those that have done horrible thjings, that they are assured the evildoer will get a just punishment. it allows victims to move on and be able to forgive.
if you dont’ think a murderer or any criminal gets a just sentence it makes forgiveness far more difficult.
and this is so true because God tells us to forgive because He wants us to believe He will judge those that do wrong to us. if we don’t believe that, it’s hard to really forgive.
but forgiveness doesn’t mean temporal punishment goes away.
and notice this is unjust sheding of blood. not in self-defense from an attacker.
it’s easy to give an account for self-defense. you don’t let anyone steal your God-given life.
why not answer him? He apparently believes God’s said certain things about these activities, and it’s clear he doesn’t think God has changed His mind about it.
second person you couldn’t handle talking to on this thread tonite.
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