Posted on 10/23/2014 3:20:58 PM PDT by Gamecock
True; but then again; there is ALWAYS gonna be someone who is 'taunted' by almost ANYTHING!
What it ACTUALLY was, was a prediction.
And, sure enough, here you are!
Good grief! Vatican banking scandal, sexual predators, pornography posted on gay sites. Yikes!
I am here because seeing the vain self-righteousness of some people, especially when it comes to matters of Christianity, disgusts me and it needs to be addressed. It does not serve God in any way for people to take a perverse glee in every weakness or failure in the Catholic Church, especially by Protestants whose own denominations are falling into apostasy at an alarming rate. It is only vanity and pettiness that would make some take pleasure in knowing that children were molested, or that homosexuals have infiltrated the clergy. Such people should be ashamed .
especially by Protestants whose own denominations are falling into apostasy at an alarming rate.
You mean like Rome already has? (As evidenced by this article, and others like it)
Apostate is as apostate does.
Meanwhile, many of the Protestant denominations are actually EMBRACING things like homosexuality as part of official church position, to the point of having openly homosexual pastors and the like. THAT is apostasy. The day the Pope supports gay marriage, especially ex-cathedra, the Catholic Church will be in apostasy as well.
And those so called churches are dying on the vine, as they should.
Strange reply; chastising folks for pointing out GROSS SIN going on in the Catholic Church.
Too bad the official position seems to have such a small effect on some of the ranking members.
Why don’t the good guys KICK OUT the bad ones and be done with it?
You go look at post #4 and some of the others and ask yourself honestly if that post served to call out sin or simply to taunt Catholic Freepers. The very posting of the article calls out the gross sin. Nobody who reads up to post #4 is unaware of the gross sin. Be honest with yourself.
Many members of the Catholic Church and many of the clergy are in a state of mortal sin or outright apostasy, but the Church is not. Huge difference. This means that the majority of parishioners can still be guided down the true path.
I don’t know why these types aren’t kicked out more readily. If I were in charge, heads would roll. We Americans now have a government overrun by godless, totalitarian, corrupt leftists. Why don’t we kick them out?
But what is the church without its members?
There is NOTHING.
And yes, the church is because it has yet to deal decisively with those in gross sin.
The fact that they still serve communion to pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage politicians, demonstrates beyond a shadow of doubt that the apostasy has sunk in and sunk in deeply.
The church's refusal to take the stand is should is nothing more than approval and condoning the behavior.
It's failure to act IS action and the RCC is demonstrating by what it's doing, or rather not doing, where it REALLY stands, all the words it utters to the contrary.
Is the Catholic church a representative republic that its adherents have the ability to do that?
Besides, the leadership is supposed to be the shepherds taking care of the flock. Since when is it the responsibility of the flock to take care of the shepherds?
It’s pretty ironic that Catholics criticize Protestants for the number of denominations it has, and yet, at least the prot laity has the option of doing SOMETHING when the leadership goes south. Catholics have no choice. They rebel against the corrupt leadership and the corrupt leadership, who is once a priest, always a priest, has (according to Catholicism) the power to bind someone’s sins to them and send them to hell.
Nice little gig they have going there.
If they don’t like being held accountable for their sin, the leadership and threaten people who oppose them with eternal hellfire and damnation, just like they did with Luther for pointing out the corruption that existed within the church hierarchy.
Talk about the ultimate blackmail to coerce unquestioning obedience.
So you're the pope. You have an administration the size of the administration of the University of Notre Dame. You're in charge of 412,000 priests.
Someone tells you that a priest in Manila is abusing children. What do you do? And how would it be different from the procedures already in place in the Catholic Church?
BTW, do you have children or grandchildren in government schools? Teachers are five times more likely to abuse children than Catholic priests, and four times more likely to abuse children than Protestant Ministers, according to the John Jay Report.
ON the contrary, if the majority of Catholics were as you say, the majority of Catholics would not be voting democratic, nor supporting all kinds of liberal social issues, as daniel1212 keeps posting poll results to show.
Even when the Catholic church took it's OWN internal poll, the results were the same.
So, unfortunately for you, it DOES represent the majority of Catholics.
The Catholic church, which claims the moral high ground, should be the one leading the way in setting the example of how to deal with moral issues. It has NO excuse for not doing so.
It has the clear commands of God Himself, and claims to be empowered by the Holy Spirit. That absolutely negates any excuses for not being more aggressive in dealing with its own internal issues.
Something. ANYTHING. Which is far more than the RCC is doing now.
And how would it be different from the procedures already in place in the Catholic Church?
Talk is cheap and procedures are meaningless if not followed.
BTW, do you have children or grandchildren in government schools? Teachers are five times more likely to abuse children than Catholic priests, and four times more likely to abuse children than Protestant Ministers, according to the John Jay Report.
So what?
You've been told before that the issue isn't that the abuse happens. Everyone realizes that it is IMPOSSIBLE to prevent. Abusers will get into positions of trust where they can abuse.
The issue is the RCC's inept and unconscionable handling of its abusive priests.
When teachers or other adults are caught abusing children, you see phrases like, *charged*, *arrested*, *jail*, *fired*, etc.
When it's a priest you see phrases like *being "investigated"* (big deal), *once a priest, always a priest*, *they've just sinners like the rest of us*, *settled out of court* ( a defacto admission of guilt).
I don't see the schools excusing, ignoring, sweeping under the rug abusive teachers like the Catholic church has a history of doing.
Just how many parishioners in the Catholic church would be willing to take communion from a priest who had been molesting kids the week before?
How willing would they be to let that priest lay the host on their tongues if they knew what those hands had been doing the week before?
Would YOU find that acceptable?
I would hope any Catholic would find the thought as repulsive and disgusting as I find it.
So why isn't the RCC doing more to deal with the problem instead of hushing it all up and shuffling the priests around for fresh meat?
Why did it take people not being intimidated by the church any more and going public before the church finally make the appearance of dealing with it?
The problem with the abusive priests has ALWAYS been how it was handled, not that it happened.
You seem to think that Catholic FReepers should be above taunting.
Does this feeling also extend to Protestant FReepers?
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