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1 posted on 12/18/2014 8:27:10 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

This is probably not the most incoherent blog I’ve ever read, but it’s right up there.


2 posted on 12/18/2014 8:30:07 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: BlatherNaut; piusv; Legatus; Wyrd bið ful aræd; Arthur McGowan; NKP_Vet; nanetteclaret; ...
Pope Francis: I ask the Lord: ‘But Lord, throw a banana peel in front of them, so that they will take a good fall, and feel shame that they are sinners, and so encounter You, [and realize] that You are the Saviour.
3 posted on 12/18/2014 8:33:19 PM PST by ebb tide
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Read the headline and knew it was someone with a sense of humor.:)


4 posted on 12/18/2014 8:34:15 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: ebb tide
I kinda wasn't too surprised to hear the pope say he prays that people fall to temptation.

People that follow Christ don't do that. Jesus never prayed that people fall into temptation. No real Christian would.

5 posted on 12/18/2014 8:39:12 PM PST by BipolarBob
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To: ebb tide

I am a Catholic, Catholic educated, and I have no idea of what you are talking about....none!!


8 posted on 12/18/2014 8:47:22 PM PST by terycarl ( common sense prevails over all)
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Could you elaborate?


9 posted on 12/18/2014 8:48:06 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: ebb tide
I have no idea what you are talking about, so here's a pope with a pancake on his head =>


12 posted on 12/18/2014 8:53:53 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet stays on the internet.)
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To: ebb tide
Err, not being Catholic but know my bible, I can state that Paul (St. Paul to you) states quite clearly that if anyone says he(she) does not sin, he(she) is a lair. That "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, (Rom. 3:23) are in need of a Savior, who is Jesus Christ our Lord.

Paul also went further to exclaim that he was "chief among sinners."

Not hearing or reading actual quotes from your Pope, I would state that he is in error, if he is praying for people to "slide into sin" so that they will recognize their need of forgiveness, for we all, including himself, are in need of forgiveness that only Jesus alone can grant.

I pray that others reading this missive realize they are in dangerous waters if they think that their "good deeds" will save them from Hell, for those "good deeds" are nothing but "dirty rags," again, according to Paul (St. Paul.)

13 posted on 12/18/2014 9:00:26 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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We are all sinners..


14 posted on 12/18/2014 9:05:34 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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“Ya dadblasted, flat-footed, fur-bearin’ varmint!”
Yosemite Sam’s curse on Mr. B. Bunny


15 posted on 12/18/2014 9:14:24 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/12/15/pope_francis_rigidity_is_a_sign_of_a_weak_heart/1114830

I didn’t see the actual homily linked in the blog, so I searched for it.


31 posted on 12/19/2014 2:37:39 AM PST by piusv
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John Baptist Vianney (Curé d’Ars), Priest (RM) - BEWARE IF YOU HAVE NO TEMPTATIONS

So, you will ask me, who then are the people most tempted? They are these, my friends; note them carefully. The people most tempted are those who are ready, with the grace of God, to sacrifice everything for the salvation of their poor souls, who renounce all those things which most people eagerly seek. It is not one devil only who tempts them, but millions seek to entrap them. We arc told that St. Francis of Assisi and all his religious were gathered on an open plain, where they had built little huts of rushes. Seeing the extraordinary penances which were being practiced, St. Francis ordered that all instruments of penance should be brought out, whereupon his religious produced them in bundles. At this moment there was one young man to whom God gave the grace to see his Guardian Angel. On the one side he saw all of these good religious, who could not satisfy their hunger for penance, and, on the other, his Guardian Angel allowed him to see a gathering of eighteen thousand devils, who were holding counsel to see in what way they could subvert these religious by temptation. One of the devils said: “You do not understand this at all. These religious are so humble; ah, what wonderful virtue, so detached from themselves, so attached to God! They have a superior who leads them so well that it is impossible to succeed in winning them over. Let us wait until their superior is dead, and then we shall try to introduce among them young people without vocations who will bring about a certain slackening of spirit, and in this way we shall gain them.”

http://www.cfpeople.org/apologetics/page51a015.html
http://www.philomena.org/vianney.asp

Tempted much, Ebb Tide?


33 posted on 12/19/2014 4:06:43 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: ebb tide

This Pope is constantly accused of being too liberal. And then when he preaches some fire and brimstone/repent before you’re damned words, he’s accused of lacking charity. MANY conversions come after sickness and trials. After being wounded in battle, the formerly frivolous Ignatius of Loyola went on to become one of the greatest saints in the Church after spiritual reading while confined to a bed for recuperation.

Does God tempt anyone? No.
Does God ordain evil? No.
Does God often permit evil to bring souls on the verge of Hell to their senses? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT.

I’ll continue to admit that Francis doesn’t always shoot from the hip/off the cuff well. He shouldn’t have used the throw a banana peel in front of the sinner reference. But all he is saying here is: God, shake up the sinner in your infinite wisdom before it’s too late.

“Authentic sorrow, therefore, which is one of the conditions for happiness, is sorrow for sin.” -The Servant of God Father John Hardon (1914-2000)
“Joy in Suffering”, p.33


41 posted on 12/19/2014 9:11:01 PM PST by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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