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Monstrance fished out of reservoir installed in basilica
Catholic Herald ^ | December 31, 2014

Posted on 12/31/2014 4:33:50 PM PST by NYer

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To: vladimir998

Pure conjecture on your part. The monstrance was found over two decades ago.


21 posted on 12/31/2014 5:31:53 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: vladimir998

How in the heck could anyone recognize it? It’s been in storage for two decades.

It’s not like it was put on the back of milk cartons for twenty years.


22 posted on 12/31/2014 5:39:04 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Larry Lucido

LOL!


23 posted on 12/31/2014 5:41:04 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: Ann Archy

“the Priest should mention to the parents and Godparents to pray for the child to become a Priest or a Nun!! “

Tell me you are kidding. Pray for your daughter to become an American nun?


24 posted on 12/31/2014 5:47:33 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ebb tide

“How in the heck could anyone recognize it? It’s been in storage for two decades.”

You think people didn’t see it? I saw such things in storage in two different chanceries. If I saw that stuff, then so would other people. Also, there is documentation for many of these sacred vessels. And, many of them produced after 1900, have inscriptions. This had none.

“It’s not like it was put on the back of milk cartons for twenty years.”

Priests would still know about it and have seen it - and they would be the ones able to identify it. Think, man, think.


25 posted on 12/31/2014 5:50:49 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: ebb tide

“Pure conjecture on your part.”

No worse than yours, in fact much better.

“The monstrance was found over two decades ago.”

Exactly. That means, if it dated back to a post-Vatican II “dumping,” then someone would have recognized it.


26 posted on 12/31/2014 5:52:06 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: DesertRhino

Idiot? or anti-Catholic?.....did I say AMERICAN nun? NO....I said NUN! And there are tons of great orders!!


27 posted on 12/31/2014 5:55:10 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NYer

28 posted on 12/31/2014 6:00:19 PM PST by BlueDragon (just the facts, ma'am)
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To: DesertRhino; Ann Archy

“Tell me you are kidding. Pray for your daughter to become an American nun?”

There are some great American nuns. Liberal nuns are the problem.

There are some great orders in America:

http://www.altonfranciscans.org/
http://nashvilledominican.org/Home
http://www.cjd.cc/
http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Item/1677/the_return_to_rome_five_years_later.aspx
http://www.lincolndiocese.org/directory/women-religious/230-sister-servants-of-the-holy-spirit-of-perpetual-adoration


29 posted on 12/31/2014 6:01:14 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
The fact that this monstrance is brass is a very good indication its post VC II.
30 posted on 12/31/2014 6:08:45 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: jtal

In the 80’s there was a Catholic cemetery in upper New York State that was bulldozed into the river. Volunteers from the local Air Force Base tried to retrieve the headstones.


31 posted on 12/31/2014 6:11:22 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: NYer

“Using a monstrance fished out of a lake, we will ask the Lord to send us new ‘fishers of men.”

This is incredible! I love it!


32 posted on 12/31/2014 6:15:59 PM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: ebb tide

“The fact that this monstrance is brass is a very good indication its post VC II.”

(sigh) No, it really is not.

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/a-19th-century-brass-and-paste-set-4277616-details.aspx?intObjectID=4277616

http://www.fluminalis.com/inventory/monstrances/monstrance-style-barok-en-brass-silver-france-18th-century-902644


33 posted on 12/31/2014 6:21:05 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

>>The orb and rays of a monstrance should at least be of silver or silver gilt, and it is recommended that it should be surmounted by a cross.<<

Catholic Encyclopedia


34 posted on 12/31/2014 6:27:01 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Red Boots

“The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur” - oops! Wrong story...


35 posted on 12/31/2014 6:28:45 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: vladimir998
And, many of them produced after 1900, have inscriptions. This had none.

How do you know that?

36 posted on 12/31/2014 6:30:09 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

“Catholic Encyclopedia”

Published in 1909. Thus, if we use logic, this monstrance could have easily have been made BEFORE 1909 since there sure seems to be silver all over it. And this pic sure makes it look like there’s a cross on top.


37 posted on 12/31/2014 6:39:39 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
You think people didn’t see it? I saw such things in storage in two different chanceries. If I saw that stuff, then so would other people.

Are you serious? How many people have access to storage at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception?

Is a visit to it on the itinerary of the daily tours?

38 posted on 12/31/2014 6:40:59 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: NYer

Nice!


39 posted on 12/31/2014 6:48:07 PM PST by Tax-chick (Our God is King!)
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To: vladimir998; jtal

I would suspect it was stolen years ago and dumped in the lake by the thief, who realized there was no way of selling it and it was of no value to him.

After Vatican II, I have seen things like this in dumpsters, set on the curb for trash pickup and in thrift stores, but that was pretty open and nobody was hiding their contempt for everything before 1965.

Somebody obviously wanted to get rid of this and not be seen doing it, so it wasn’t just a regular Vatican II “taking out the trash” (also known as the sacred vessels, the altar cloths, the vestments, the images...well, you get the general idea).


40 posted on 12/31/2014 6:49:10 PM PST by livius
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