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To: pastorbillrandles
I suggested that the words you used were close to Pelagian's. Then I asked if you were a Monergist or a Synergist...which you have yet to answer.

And, frankly, the words, "...but he also said,..." give to readers a sense that there is something for them to "do", a work that your words imply. There is just this trace element, this tinge, this smell of, "Well, of course, God is doing something in you, BUT don't get too cocky there buddy, you have a part in all of this, too. So get off your keister and get to work."

It may not sound like this to you...but it does to me. I am surprised more folks who claim to lay all of the "activity" of salvation at Jesus' feet don't say something like, "If you notice an awareness of God's requirements and your abject failure to meet those requirements, if you recognize that the only hope you have is found in Jesus blood shed for you to pay the price you cannot even pay, if you recognize that He is the Messiah, the Rescuer of Israel, then it is likely you are among the elect and are being drawn to Christ. You are being adopted by God, being brought into the family of believers whose citizenship is in the New Jerusalem above. You are safe, granted forgiveness of sin, covered in a righteousness that does not belong to you but is that which Jesus Himself owns. In response to all of this care, this regeneration, this initial redemption of your spirit, go ahead and respond to Him, your Heavenly Father. Lay hold of Him, cling to Him and realize that none of this is being done by you."

If Paul is correct and even the "choosing" is "...God at work in you both to WILL and to ACCOMPLISH His good will.", shouldn't we be speaking more clearly about this? Shouldn't our presentations be more about Him and less about what is "required"? Why is it that most all folks who claim to be "evangelists" are really just Judaizers?

19 posted on 02/19/2015 9:45:27 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

Wow! Judaizers? I don’t think so. A man is justified by faith and not by the works of the law. We are the true circumcision, who put no confidence in the flesh, but glory in Christ Jesus. Thanks for your comments Dutchboy-


21 posted on 02/19/2015 10:39:20 AM PST by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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