[2001convSVT]

Excellent!

[LearsFool]

Neither Gentile or Jew could be saved from sin in any other way, than through faith in Jesus Christ

Well there WAS one other way to be saved, though not "saved from sin" - and that was to keep the law without sin. That's the "works of law" Paul addresses earlier in his letter, and shows that no one has done that. (It goes without saying that Jesus did, of course, and was therefore not in need of salvation from sin.) For instance:

"by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified in his sight; for through the law cometh the knowledge of sin." - 3:20

By the way, do you think you'll have a chance to address my questions in your thread from earlier today? I'd like to know where you stand on that issue.

[sauropod]

Thx for posting this.

[A Navy Vet]

"How would Adam and Eve been saved? Moses explains in Genesis 3 that they believed in the original gospel promise, of the seed of the woman. How was Abraham justified? Moses tells us in Genesis “Abraham believed God and it was counted for Righteousness”!"

Please. You actually buy into the Adam and Eve fairy tale? If so, how do you explain where Cain and Able found their wives? Where did those women come from since Cain and Able were the only children of Adam and Eve? How can you shut down your intellect like that? Remember, God gave you logic, and yet you and others actually believe those ramblings of unknowledgable superstitious old men.

The Old Testament is fantasy. The New Testament has some hisorical fact. However, those who wrote the Gospels believed the Earth was flat and the Sun revolved around the Earth.

I absolutely love the idea of Christ and what he stood for. I want to believe.

[metmom]

ping

[metmom]

Great article.

Thanks for posting.

[Jack Hydrazine]

The Torah - the original Good News version 1.0 brought to you by God at Mt. Sinai some 3,300+ years ago.

Always imitated, never duplicated!

[onedoug]

I believe in the God of the Old Testament.

Jesus - or rather the Gospel writers - had some odd ways of demonstrating the claims made for him.

In the case of the Gerasene swine for one, those pigs may well have belonged to some swineherd. Though he evidently thought nothing of stealing and killing them - in an awful way for the animals - ostensibly for the sake of delivering one (or two, depending on which account) from sin, but compounding it in himself by not paying for them. That some apologists would claim that he did, is somehow “conveniently” left out of the narrative.

In another, when Jesus and his disciples are challenged for not washing their hands prior to eating, he said something to the effect that it’s not what goes in to a man, but what comes out is what defiles.

Granted, nothing then was known of modern microbial theory, but Jesus, being God, should have known it. And although, in current Jewish practice, that’s still not the reason, I’d bet that Jesus and his disciples got at least quite a bit of unpleasant indigestion for not doing so.

All IMHO, of course.

And a disclaimer: The United States could NOT have been founded without Christianity. So I do honor it at least in that way.

[RnMomof7]

Amen