Is John 6:66 Evidence of Transubstantiation?

In Plain Sight ^ | March 31,2015 | Jason Engwer

[Petrosius]

The "attacks" usually come from the Romanists, when confronted with clear Scripture refuting the heresies and abominations of the largest cult in the history of the world.

Believe me when I say that Catholics see the clear meaning of Scripture confirming, not refuting, our beliefs. Do not confuse your own private interpretations of the Bible with Scripture itself.

[knarf]

Funnier still ... Ignatius was speaking about those that didn't agree with HIM (heterodox), not devulging a universal truth/rejection/acceptance ... and certainly not expoinding a doctrine.

I fully believe Ignatius believes what he says ... I just don't believe the apostle John taught him that way.

[Resettozero]

Believe me when I say that Catholics see the clear meaning of Scripture confirming, not refuting, our beliefs.

I believe you. Catholics posting here are totally convinced of the validity of their religious un-Biblical sect's teachings. Totally; no question.

Yet, some families have departed from the RCC sect in recent decades and, instead, now worship at just Christian churches, not RCC outlets. The parents in these families testify it was a relief to escape the burdens of the RCC and to meet with like-minded believers in the Lord Jesus Christ alone without interference by priests and the incessant (erroneous) indoctrinations.

Occasionally, some of these former-RCC family heads post here on FR RF.

[WVKayaker]

Believe me when I say that Catholics see the clear meaning of Scripture confirming, not refuting, our beliefs. Do not confuse your own private interpretations of the Bible with Scripture itself.

So, that is YOUR private interpretation speaking back!

I am not confused. "I know in Whom I believe and am persuaded. It is only in the perverse world of the Romanist cult that Scripture says one thing, but "tradition" dictates another (upon threat of "ex-communication" and eternal damnation.

Nice try, but no banana!

[pleasenotcalifornia]

Anyone who is pro-abortion is not in good standing with the Lord just because they happened to be baptized as a Christian be Protestant or Catholic. Your relatives have left Christianity and their membership in the Catholic Church, whether they accept it or not. If they are getting support of their abortion stance from some RC priests or bishops then those clergy are phonies also.

I read John 6 and I interpret it as Christ establishing the Eucharist. Don't Protestants believe they are best judge of what Scripture means? My born-again friend says he is his own best interpreter. Why then can't I read John 6 and take what Jesus said as being literal in conjunction with his words at the Last Supper.
You believe differently, fine, that's your business. It would do me no good to belittle your beliefs.

Obama and company (your lefty relatives and mine included) are pursuing and promoting evil. Should we not fight them together? Would we let Satan and Obama with his minions win over the souls of millions because we differ on how we read Scripture? At this point in History isn't fighting the Left doing the will of God? I will take you at your word that you are a conservative. I will accept you at your word that I can believe what I want to, and I will continue to believe in Transubstantiation.
Peace be with you also.

[Resettozero]

I will accept you at your word that I can believe what I want to, and I will continue to believe in Transubstantiation.

Most every one here believed in Santa Claus until the first or second grade, when older kids wised us up.

[NewCenturions]

Good post!

[pleasenotcalifornia]

OK, I’ll believe like a child.
Mark 10:15
Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”

[Rashputin]

". . . when older kids wised us up.

And in the case of Transubstantiation it only took 1500+ years and the heresy of Self and Self Alone to wake the kiddies up.

[WVKayaker]

Most every one here believed in Santa Claus until the first or second grade, when older kids wised us up.

More seasonally, I think there are many here looking for colored eggs! They are found right behind all those statues and relics of the cult!

[Rashputin]

Sure, the Holy Spirit was on vacation in Vegas for fifteen hundred years, with the Tooth Fairy in fact.

[Rashputin]

You got it, substitute biscuit for cookie and quote away without so much as a flag on the play.

[Mark17]

Occasionally, some of these former-RCC family heads post here on FR RF.

Like me? I have no intention of swimming the Tiber.

[Springfield Reformer]

Anyone who is pro-abortion is not in good standing with the Lord just because they happened to be baptized as a Christian be Protestant or Catholic. Your relatives have left Christianity and their membership in the Catholic Church, whether they accept it or not. If they are getting support of their abortion stance from some RC priests or bishops then those clergy are phonies also.
I read John 6 and I interpret it as Christ establishing the Eucharist. Don't Protestants believe they are best judge of what Scripture means? My born-again friend says he is his own best interpreter. Why then can't I read John 6 and take what Jesus said as being literal in conjunction with his words at the Last Supper.
 You believe differently, fine, that's your business. It would do me no good to belittle your beliefs.

Obama and company (your lefty relatives and mine included) are pursuing and promoting evil. Should we not fight them together? Would we let Satan and Obama with his minions win over the souls of millions because we differ on how we read Scripture? At this point in History isn't fighting the Left doing the will of God? I will take you at your word that you are a conservative. I will accept you at your word that I can believe what I want to, and I will continue to believe in Transubstantiation.
 Peace be with you also.

People are free to believe as they wish, true.  But truth is still truth, and the Gospel must still be proclaimed, and falsehood discredited.  I know we see this issue differently, and it will not be sorted out until Jesus returns.  Until then, we follow the path He has set for us.  In all honesty, I am more concerned about the Gospel than I am about anything the lefties do or think.  They are bit players in the larger drama.  This is about souls.

Nevertheless, I have no desire to harass anyone, nor to spend my own time frivolously, so I try not to follow these debates too many times around the block.  In the end, God is the one who must change hearts and minds.  

Peace,

SR

[Mark17]

In the end, God is the one who must change hearts and minds.

Amen bro.

[boatbums]

What often gets overlooked in the disagreements over the John 6 “Bread of Life” discourse is that this happened several YEARS before the actual Last Supper and crucifixion. All throughout the gospels we read of people coming to faith in Jesus Christ, believing in Him as Savior and Lord but no mention of any actual rite or ceremony of bread and wine being changed into flesh and blood for someone to physically consume before they were saved. It’s pretty clear that it is by faith/belief how we eat and drink our Savior. Metaphors that were not at all unheard of in Jewish teachings.

[Salvation]

What about the Wedding at Cana?

[Salvation]

Or the miracles of feeding thousands with 5 loaves and 3 fish?

Aren’t these miracles?