Posted on 05/04/2015 6:23:01 AM PDT by Gamecock
Any day is a good day to worship. That does not remove the commandment, which is not for worship (though not without), but for rest.
You may already know I keep Shabbat - One of the few things YHWH promises specific blessings for keeping - And in my life, I have found that to be very true. That time, is the time I look forward to the most. And it isn’t hard to do. Rather, for me, it is a joy. A time I have grown to be very jealous for.
Yeshua cannot have changed the Sabbath day and be sinless... He would be a false prophet.
And no, Paul could not have changed the Sabbath, or he is a false prophet.
It is Rome that changed the times and laws (the moedim and Torah)... There is no getting around that. So, serve YHWH or serve Rome... Which?
Pentacost is not on a Sunday, except by accident
“Yeshua cannot have changed the Sabbath day and be sinless”
But why do you believe Saturday is the day?
Then why was YHWH so very specific?
The Sabbath day seems very clear to me. The bible says the Sabbath is the 7th day of the week, Saturday.
While I agree with you, I would point out that YHWH did not command you to count your steps upon the Sabbath. YHWH simply said 'don't travel on the Sabbath'. One of my favorite places to go on Shabbat is to a little ridge overlooking my property up on the mountain. I often will walk up there and sit on the bench there to commune and to read the Bible. There is nothing wrong with taking a walk on the Sabbath.
When you keep the speed limit once, does that mean you never have to keep it again?
The Bible says that God created the world in six days and he rested on the seventh. He commands us to remember the Sabbath day, the day of rest.
Now I don’t know about you, but my work week starts on Monday. I work in my business 5 and a half days a week. The last half of Saturday is for doing house stuff. Sunday is the day after the six days of labor, so I rest and worship on that day.
Do you remember how Jesus felt about those who were more concerned with the “rules” than loving their fellow man? Think hard before you post again.
Amen Sister/ brother. This is actually my ministry on Earth to get off this Old Testament legalism.
What comes to mind is the Sabbath.
Is it legalism to claim the Sabbath
is the Sabbath or is it legalism for
Preachers to claim the Sabbath was
changed to Sunday?
Most of the tithe collecting sheep shearers
that I have known do believe the Sabbath
was changed to Sunday.
While any one who is honest can see that
the Sabbath can not be changed any more
than the day of our lords resurrection.
It’s Saturday for me for sure as a Noachide.
Though by Deuteronomy 4:19 and Malachi 1:11, I believe that God is understanding to one’s true intentions...so long as they’re indeed true.
Oh, and are we really arguing this when the days of the week are named after Norse gods?
“The bible says the Sabbath is the 7th day of the week, Saturday.”
When did Saturday become the 7th day of the week?
But why Saturday? How do you know that Saturday was the Sabbath when Deuteronomy and Malachi were written?
'Destroy' and 'Fulfill' Are rabbinic terms - you should know what they mean... Then you might better understand the midrash that follows his statement.
There are records among the Jews to defend their 7th day as the Sabbath - And as the day that Yeshua recognized (having made no correction), and the day that HE attended Synagogue, I have naught to do but follow him.
Virtually everyone knows WHEN the Sabbath is, even though they don't keep it.
While not exactly defined as such, as a 'Christian Messianic', me too.
Though by Deuteronomy 4:19 and Malachi 1:11, I believe that God is understanding to one’s true intentions...so long as they’re indeed true.
I am less concerned with one's personal understandings... It is the corrupting of the original images that lead people to false understandings - These are what I stand to correct = It isn't a personal attack on anyone.
Because the Jews say that’s when it is, and I follow that Jewish custom.
I do occasionally find myself conflicted with some elements of Torah, such as Urim and Thummim, which I view as soothsaying. Or certain elements of animal sacrifice during the Old Temple period, and its possible restoration in The Temple to come. I try to keep kosher, though limiting it to poultry and fish for similar reasons.
In other words, I sometimes argue with God, which is the original meaning of Israel...as opposed to islam, which is to submit.
It took a long time in many Christian settings to realize that I was much happier with an Old Testament outlook.
Though I realize too that the United States could never have been founded without Christianity, so I recognize that for a great deal of people there is happiness therein too.
What I do lament however, is how many Christians seems to give The Law short shrift believing that the New Testament outlook somehow abrogates The Law. I obviously do not adhere to such a view.
In other languages they aren't like that -- Montag Dienstag Mittwoch Donnerstag Freitag Samstag Sonntag or Lunes, Martes, Miércoles, Jueves, Viernes, Sábado, Domingo or poniedziałek wtorek środa czwartek piątek sobota niedziela
Raven, with study ‘Pentecost’, the birthday of the church actually falls on one of His weekly Sabbaths.
But it would mean rejecting Rome’s calendar and Rome’s count.
And it would allow Moses coming down the mount after 100 days from the first Passover with the tablets of the covenant and 3000 people killed to mesh with the gift of the Holy irit and 3000 souls saved in Acts.
And that day, with study, would be the 29th day of our Father’s 4th month. A natural ‘weekly’ Sabbath when one studies the calendar template Ezekiel received from our Soveriegn..
His Sabbath isn’t Saturday or Sunday every week.. and it certainly is a way Satan steals worship..
I don’t have a problem with the 7th day. But how do you know that Saturday is the 7th day that they reference?
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