Posted on 05/27/2015 5:42:38 AM PDT by Salvation
So much for Paul’s views.
Monsignor Pope Ping!
There are a lot of comments at his site.
Paul was speaking of consecrated (permanent) celibacy, not momentary single life. This is the distinction of which Msgr. Pope writes.
“Vocation” and “momentary” are not synonymous.
My point exactly.
Look at the headline. Pope’s point is not what you claim it is. He’s not talking about a temporary, or momentary, state.
Read the article and not just the headline. He is talking about those who find themselves in a single life, not those who make a religious vow and commitment to a celibate life.
Just got back from there to post a question and already it has over 75 responses.
It had 73 responses when I posted it. LOL!
It is a hot issue indeed!
He is so wrong.That’s why I stopped following him years ago.Some of what he says is good and some bad.
I don’t disagree with him, but marriage, for men in the USA at least, is a tremendous legal and economic risk, much more so than for women.
Given the state of society, the legal system, and the beliefs of most “modern” women regarding their entitlements (effectively believing they are entitled to all the advantages of being a women and a man, without any of the responsibilities of either sex), I don’t blame single men for remaining single.
The fact that this needs to be explained in multiple paragraphs shows how far gone the Western Civilization is.
I’ve always thought that it would be easier for a woman to remain single than for a man.
You bring up some valid points about non-trust with women, however.
Thank you.
In what ways do you think he is wrong?
BTTT for that statement.
I think your is the conventional wisdon, but take children, just for an example. In the USA, a woman can:
1. Have a child and make the man pay/support
2. Abort the child without the man’s consent
3. Give the child up for adoption without the man’s consent
4. Even abandon the child at a fire station up to age two and face no legal repercussions (but the man would pay the state for care)
In short, legally, women hold all the power in this regard, married or not married.
There are similar issues with regard to spousal support, alimony, and division of property.
And there are worse issues with alleged (or actual) domestic abuse, with women easily able to strip men of basic rights (e.g., travel and right to defend himself with weaponry) just on their word. On allegation alone, a man’s freedom is in jeopardy, and, even if he defeats the case, he would be financially ruined via the court system.
And then in the marriage itself (even in an otherwise healthy Christian marriage), there is the belief that “a woman is entitled to be happy” (which I agree is a good thing), but it’s not a “right.” It’s a goal. “If momma ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy,” is funny, but now women in the USA think they have the right to be happy, regardless of what her quest for “happiness” does to the husband. This, in turn, leads to divorce.
Similarly, while men are also failing in their obligations to lead the family (which is considered bad in secular society, so they abdicate) and love their wives (which means do anything necessary to please her in secular society), women don’t respect their husbands or permit them to lead. American women are not equals, they are domineering, in general. Admittedly, they use soft power to domineer, but they do, in no small part because the legal and social power all lies in their hands.
Yes, there are many exceptions to what I say, but it is the majority of “modern” marriages in the USA.
American men are cowed and know the deck is stacked against them.
So no wonder they are checking out from marriage -— and no wonder good men seek a life of celibacy, even outside the Church vows.
Marriage (or any relationship with a woman) is just too risky and troublesome.
I think he’s wrong about Opus Dei. Those who belong can make vows to remain single and, in effect, belong to a religious community. But that’s a relatively minor point.
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