Posted on 06/15/2015 6:30:36 PM PDT by RnMomof7
sola scriptura ping
As a Catholic, I have absolutely no problem in endorsing Scripture as the supreme norm of the faith. Calling Scripture the "sole norm" violates Scripture itself. Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit to lead the church to "all truth". He never promised that it would be exhaustively written down in a book which would require no further authoritative interpretation.
Let me ask you theses questions. As in God’s word, whish is correct? The linage of Joseph in Matthew 1 or the linage of Joseph in Luke 3:23. The next question is who was the father of Jesus?
Luke 24:25-27 And he said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?” And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 They said to each other, “Did not our hearts burn within us while he talked to us on the road, while he opened to us the Scriptures?”
Luke 24:44-49Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem. You are witnesses of these things. And behold, I am sending the promise of my Father upon you. But stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high.”
Deuteronomy 8:3 And he humbled you and let you hunger and fed you with manna, which you did not know, nor did your fathers know, that he might make you know that man does not live by bread alone, but man lives by every word that comes from the mouth of the LORD.
Matthew 4:4 But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”
Mark 12:24 Jesus said to them, “Is this not the reason you are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God?
Matthew 22:29 But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.
John 10:35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken—
So, by what means does the Catholic church determine what truth is that it claims is outside the purview of Scripture?
How do they know if they’re being led by the Holy Spirit?
Get a warm, fuzzy feeling?
Form a committee and vote on it?
Thanks for posting this article. I think it is one of the best defenses of sola Scriptura I have seen.
The angel Gabriel; told the blessed Virgin Mary that the Holy Spirit would come over her. And that the name of the baby would be Jesus.
” As a Catholic, I have absolutely no problem in endorsing Scripture as the supreme norm of the faith. Calling Scripture the “sole norm” violates Scripture itself. “
Some response.
Sola Scriptura doesn’t make the Scriptures the only source. It declares it is the ultimate source of authority to which every other must answer. Every doctrine is judged by the single standard, does the Scripture teach it. If not, it is manmade.
“Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit to lead the church to “all truth”.
It was a promise to believers and not to a church. Still, the promise was fulfilled as the Holy Spirit inspired the New Testament Scriptures. He continues to live inside each believer and speak to his or her heart.
“He never promised that it would be exhaustively written down in a book which would require no further authoritative interpretation. “
He gave to the church the spiritual gift of teachers for this purpose.
Nowhere did Christ promise that there would be one authority perched in Rome, nor just one gathering.
In addition to the Catholic church, there are many other churches which teach their traditions as though they were from God. They may adhere to “sola scriptura”, but they don’t adhere to the Scriptures. Like the Catholic church, these “denominations” were invented by men - only more recently.
Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit to lead the church to “all truth”.
Indeed He did!
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
John 16:12-15 KJV
this again... jeesh
Most conservative Bible scholars today take a different view, namely, that Luke is recording Mary’s genealogy and Matthew is recording Joseph’s. Matthew is following the line of Joseph (Jesus’ legal father), through David’s son Solomon, while Luke is following the line of Mary (Jesus’ blood relative), through David’s son Nathan. Since there was no Greek word for “son-in-law,” Joseph was called the “son of Heli” by marriage to Mary, Heli’s daughter. Through either Mary’s or Joseph’s line, Jesus is a descendant of David and therefore eligible to be the Messiah. Tracing a genealogy through the mother’s side is unusual, but so was the virgin birth. Luke’s explanation is that Jesus was the son of Joseph, “so it was thought” (Luke 3:23).
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-genealogy.html#ixzz3dBmYXSIa
Hope that helps.
Why argue, when the Word of God, is Always Present? Why do Holy Roman Catholics, argue anything, with anyone? God is present. Right?
This was part of what Christ said after the Last Supper, so it is addressed to the Apostles. How do you know that it applies to *all* followers of Christ, even future ones?
Then the apostles and presbyters, in agreement with the whole church, decided to choose representatives and to send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. The ones chosen were Judas, who was called Barsabbas, and Silas, leaders among the brothers. This is the letter delivered by them:Look, the Bible itself shows that the gathered pastors of the church taught with the authority of the Holy Spirit. Sola scriptura is contrary to Scripture.The apostles and the presbyters, your brothers, to the brothers in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia of Gentile origin: greetings. Since we have heard that some of our number [who went out] without any mandate from us have upset you with their teachings and disturbed your peace of mind, we have with one accord decided to choose representatives and to send them to you along with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, who have dedicated their lives to the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. So we are sending Judas and Silas who will also convey this same message by word of mouth: ‘It is the decision of the holy Spirit and of us not to place on you any burden beyond these necessities, namely, to abstain from meat sacrificed to idols, from blood, from meats of strangled animals, and from unlawful marriage. If you keep free of these, you will be doing what is right. Farewell.’(Acts 15:22-29)
By the magisterial teaching of the Church.
By what means do Protestant determine what truth is that it posits outside the actual words of Scripture. And do not be mislead, despite all the claims of sola scriptura Protestantism does not operate according to it. Rather, it posits specific theological claims, Protestant opinions, that it insists that must be believed and places these opinions on the same plane as Scripture. If it truly worked according to sola scriptura it could not arbitrate between Catholic interpretations of Scripture and those of its own. Sola scriptura does not allow one opinion concerning the interpretation of Scripture to be raised above that of another.
How do they know if they’re being led by the Holy Spirit?
See the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15. How does a Protestant know that he is being lead rather than a Catholic?
Form a committee and vote on it?
Again, see Acts 15.
The term is "sola scriptura", not "summa scriptura." The "sola" in sola scriptura means "only."
Every doctrine is judged by the single standard, does the Scripture teach it. If not, it is manmade.
That sounds like only Scripture to me. But of course sola scriptura itself is not found in Scripture. It is manmade.
It was a promise to believers and not to a church.
This distinction is not to be found in Scripture. It is manmade.
He continues to live inside each believer and speak to his or her heart.
Is this true of Catholic believers also?
He gave to the church the spiritual gift of teachers for this purpose.
Which the Church continues to do through the pastors established by Jesus Christ.
Nowhere did Christ promise that there would be one authority perched in Rome, nor just one gathering.
Nice rhetorical trick in trying to limit the Universal (i.e. Catholic) Church to just the city of Rome. The Catholic Church consist of over 5000 bishops and over 1 billion members throughout the world. It is not just the church of Rome.
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