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Pope Francis Comment on Gays
http://www.brainyquote.com/slideshow/authors/top_10_pope_francis_quotes.html#QDU6y5fekEMZIW9l.99 ^ | Pope Francis

Posted on 07/03/2015 9:48:43 PM PDT by hapnHal

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To: ansel12

LOL.
Not actually when one gets into discussions with them.


21 posted on 07/03/2015 10:45:10 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless)
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To: fidelis

“If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them?”

Actually the exact opposite is true! As a true Christian I am to judge according to the fruit you bear. A person not claiming to be Christian then Christ will judge them accordingly.

1 Samuel 24:13, Matthew 7:20, Matthew 12:33, Luke 6:43-44, Galatians 5:22, and James 3:12

1 Cor 5:12, What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

Now with that being said if they are true born again Christians bearing good fruit then we shouldn’t marginalize their past or anyone’s past.


22 posted on 07/03/2015 10:46:22 PM PDT by mrobisr
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To: ansel12

Like I said, “I” have never come across homosexual priest, but I have friends who have and they invoked my methods and questions.


23 posted on 07/03/2015 10:47:41 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless)
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To: NKP_Vet

You are right. The sex problem with those priests was not pedophilia but homosexuality. The victims were not children but in early to late adolescence and almost all were boys. This was not about abusing young girls but luring young males on the brink of manhood.


24 posted on 07/03/2015 10:50:32 PM PDT by MHT (,)
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To: onyx

Which brings us back to the fact that we only spot the homosexuals that we spot, and even then we can’t be sure, because effeminate doesn’t always mean homosexual.

I spent a lot of time with a Priest in one on one counseling, who was effeminate by my standards, and I speculated if he was homosexual in inclination, although I assumed that he was celibate, but speculation is all that I could do, and some homosexuals are very masculine, for example it is a shocker to learn that a mercenary is gay, or construction workers.


25 posted on 07/03/2015 10:51:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: hapnHal

He is the anti-pope. It is why the Catholic Canon exists-—so irrational popes who promote child abuse and demonic ethics and intrinsic disorders can’t just change doctrine at a whim.

But, it sure looks like all the NWO people are at the helm now EVERYWHERE!!!! to force Fichte’s Dream of “destroying Free Will” in all the little children-—hyper-sexualize them and focus them on sex acts at age 4 and 5 is their goal-—to normalize the vile, slavish behaviors (nihilism) and remove Reason and God (Truth) and force such an irrational Reality (Marx’s) where there is no biological connections, and Vice is Virtue, and Slavery is Freedom, the State is god and dictates “Good and Evil” (and it is Afghani Ethics) and all the kiddies will just grow up to be like the obamaphone lady——”happy slaves” of the State, just dumb with no possibility of Common Sense.

We are living in an Alice in Wonderland World. Get your children OUT of the hole.


26 posted on 07/03/2015 10:56:57 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: hapnHal

To All Posters
Want to thank you for your comments. Needless to say I was shocked when I read Pope Francis comments about Gays.

As the old saying goes “God created Adam and Eve, NOT Adam and Steve.” To me Evil is Evil and Good is Good and I can’t embrace EVIL.


27 posted on 07/03/2015 10:59:28 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: ansel12

No, it has more to do with the mother of the boys. She is more than likely very involved with the Church and either widowed or living apart from the father of her children. The Parish Priest is very helpful and her sons are encouraged to become Altar boys, which makes the Mother proud. A special relationship is formed. Many times full scholarships are offered to her sons (and daughters) to the Parish schools, including uniforms and all books. The priest is a regular guest at family dinners. Very cozy and close.

The boy or boys participate in school sports and sometimes the Priest is the masculine, athletic coach! The boy or boys excel in his choen sport or sports, at least for a while.

Everything is ducky for a while before it all comes crashing down, as it will eventually. The priest becomes the substitute father for the birth father.

It’s so sick beyond imagination, but few say one word, like I have and will continue to do.

I stand up for children.


28 posted on 07/03/2015 11:07:04 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless)
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To: fidelis

Yep. Not complicated


29 posted on 07/03/2015 11:09:04 PM PDT by stanne
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To: hapnHal

Some of this Pope’s pronouncements may seem inexplicable on its surface, but there may be a method to his madness. I believe he realizes Christianity is under direct attack in the Western world, and he is attempting to soften the Catholic church’s teaching or at least put them in a less hostile perspective towards homosexuality so as not to allow attacks against the church for some ostensible ‘hate crimes’ in the future. He is also pushing communion with the Orthodox church seeking strength in numbers. There is already a push by some on the radical left to remove the Church’s tax exemptions, and it won’t stop there.


30 posted on 07/03/2015 11:09:11 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: hapnHal

someone needs to introduce the pope to google images then search for ‘folsom street fair’ with the adult filter off.

then tell us again how that’s perfectly ok and aligned with the intentions of Jesus


31 posted on 07/03/2015 11:10:24 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ansel12

P.S.
I go to the Mother first and that has been successful.


32 posted on 07/03/2015 11:11:38 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless)
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To: hapnHal
Hey Pope, it's the job of Church leaders and all Christians to tell people
they're wrong. You know, so they don't go to hell?

Taking the middle road sends people to hell. How will your glorious untarnished perfect
ego explain that to GOD?

33 posted on 07/03/2015 11:15:02 PM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS,)
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To: onyx

Huh? That wasn’t related to our conversation, or post 25.

I think that you switched over to something about how Priests abuse children, methods and techniques that they use, but not what we were talking about, which was your spotting all homosexuals from 3 miles away.


34 posted on 07/03/2015 11:17:28 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: onyx

Go to the mother about what?


35 posted on 07/03/2015 11:18:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: ansel12

It is because you haven’t studied the homosexual movement which was a German construct (homosexuality was their National Vice by 1900s) to normalize the behavior again, since it was Christianity which put it in the closet, with pederasty and slavery and polygamy. That is why Christian Worldview is being attacked for 200 years....and longer....Pederasty is ALWAYS a part of homosexuality, since it is a learned behavior and that is why you are lied to about its history. They need the minds of little boys and girls to corrupt them and destroy normal sexual identity formation, where, in Christianity, innocence/dignity/privacy is a must.

The really butch homosexuals are like the Spartans and the Samurai-—they are always very brutal and never allow themselves to be used like the woman. They hate the effeminate males-—and kill them. They use the boys and when the boys mature, they use the boys. (Boys are groomed ).

They are always extremely sexist cultures, like in Afghanistan. They use the boys too, but they also don’t have the discipline and work ethic of the Samurai or the Spartan and they will use anything-—males, goats, boys, whatever. They grow up to embed hate for woman-—as did the other homosexual cultures——women are beneath them and just for breeding.

The more you study this sick evil “lifestyle”, the more sick you will become....about what these evil, satanic people are doing to the boys particularly. It should still be a mental illness-—it is lust, narcissism and idolatry and a particular hate for God. They all have “daddy” issues-—or their dad did not keep them safe from sodomites.

John Wayne Gacy was sodomized at age eight-—Charles Manson’s first serious crime as a teenage was sodomizing a younger boy. Jeffrey Dahmer was raped by his own father.

http://www.thepinkswastika.com/5294/index.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/afghan-pedophilia-a-way-of-life-say-u-s-soldiers-and-journalists

http://keynesatharvard.org/book/Sugar_Keynes.html


36 posted on 07/03/2015 11:20:00 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

LOL, your shallow assumptions reveal your ignorance, not mine.

Only the young thinkers on a subject, tend to assume that they are talking to an older man who doesn’t know what they know about the topic.

The Pink Swastika is a great book, but remember that it didn’t come out until 1995.


37 posted on 07/03/2015 11:27:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: hapnHal

“If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?”

The Pope needs to bone up on his Bible.

I Corinthians 5: “You must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. Expel the wicked person from among you.”


38 posted on 07/03/2015 11:48:52 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: onyx

Oh good. Because I think there’s a law against canning homosexuals. ;)


39 posted on 07/03/2015 11:51:17 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since Nov '08. Soon to be colon cancer free. ~ Þ)
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To: savagesusie

Remember that the Nazi Party started out as a bunch of militant butch homosexuals who liked to wear fancy uniforms. Eventually Hitler took it over and had the homosexuals killed in the “Night of the Long Knives.” He did that partly because the German regular army, the Wehrmacht, refused to integrate with the Nazi troops because they thought they were sexually depraved.


40 posted on 07/03/2015 11:51:32 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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