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Quo Usque Tandem, Francisce, Abutere Patientia Christi?
https://mundabor.wordpress.com/2015/09/14/quo-usque-tandem-francisce-abutere-patientia-christi/ ^ | September 14, 2015 | Mundabor

Posted on 09/15/2015 4:12:39 PM PDT by ebb tide

Quo usque tandem....

I know, I know… I am borrowing heavily from Cicero here. But it seems to me that the Vatican Catilina is not going to enjoy the rest of his disgraceful pontificate, which we hope will be short anyway.

The rather explosive news is now everywhere: a seven-page document gravely accusing Francis of incompetence and tampering with doctrine is being circulated within the Vatican, and has been very fittingly leaked to the press.

We do not have the translation, but there can be no doubt that the content is brutal. From what I can see the grievances concern the obvious shortcomings of Francis both as a spiritual guide (I must smile as I write this; it's like calling Berlusconi an example of chastity) and as an administrator.

As to the first point, the document accuses Francis of opening the door to such abuses as to gravely damage the Sacrament. A fact, this, repeated all the time on Catholic blogs, and which remains true even if the changes aren't, so to speak, openly heretical. Technicalities and procedural simplifications could make a joke of pretty much everything, if the will is there. I have already written (here) and repeat now, that this should be a very vocally discussed issue at the Synod.

As to the second point, the accusations are also very open: Francis is accused of having bypassed the appropriate procedures (and offices) in order to concoct a mess hastily and amateurishly put together; not only showing great incompetence, but revealing an attitude that is the exact contrary of that “collegiality” the Evil Clown loved to mention so often, before discovering how many bishops don't like him one bit.

It goes more explicit still. The veiled admission of an atmosphere of exasperation going near physical violence (You won't find this in the link above; but it was in the original text, as linked here) means that there are those within the Vatican thinking – in plain words – pretty much this: “you are such an ass that you would deserve to have your backside kicked around the Vatican Gardens until you understand how a Pope has to behave; and don't be too sure it won't happen one day, because with such a one as you common rules cease to apply”.

Please reflect on some simple facts concerning the events:

1) seven pages full of accusations. This is a well-thought, organised effort, not the rant of some isolated dissenter.

2) Circulated within the Vatican. Francis has lost control of the Vatican machinery.

3) Leaked to the press so that all the world knows, and Catholics may take heart at the news. Francis has lost the respect of his people, and no one fears such a prime example of stupidity and incompetence.

4) Admission of exasperation to the point of near physical violence. Imagine how utterly and completely despised this man is. Thank God, there are still Catholics in the Vatican!

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This thing will now, I think, be hushed. Vatican officials will – in pure Vatican style – run to the microphones and tell us how much everyone is behind Francis, thebelovedpopeofmercywhocaressomuchforthepoor. They will not expect to be believed. They will not want you to believe them. It will be another exercise in Vatican diplomacy. Like last October, when the bishops slapped him in the face one day and swore how orthodox he was the next.

Make no mistake: Francis has been symbolically slapped in the face again, and slapped very hard, by his own Curia, for all the world to see. They have had enough of this South American ass thinking he can do to the Church what Chavez did to Venezuela; and get away with astonishing incompetence as, alas, people like him tend to do in his part of the planet. The Vatican isn't Venezuela, and the Church is a tougher nut to crack.

How long, Francis, will you abuse Christ's patience? We do not know exactly. But it seems the time is running rapidly out for the man, and his game has now become very dangerous.

The Synod might well become very interesting after all.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
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1 posted on 09/15/2015 4:12:40 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 09/15/2015 4:14:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Translation, please.


3 posted on 09/15/2015 4:21:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

You’re net savvy. Go for it.


4 posted on 09/15/2015 4:22:59 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

it was just a few hundred years ago, that those in the Vatican in such positions, knew how to off a pope they needed to get rid of, although, back then, it was usually to replace the pope with someone even worse.


5 posted on 09/15/2015 4:26:53 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Religion Moderator

From Religion Moderator’s Guidelines:

When posting in a foreign language, unless the statement is very common, e.g. adios, always include the English translation of it.


6 posted on 09/15/2015 4:52:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

How long, Francis, will you abuse Christ’s patience?


7 posted on 09/15/2015 4:54:28 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: ebb tide

8 posted on 09/15/2015 4:55:44 PM PDT by x
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To: Salvation; Religion Moderator

Cicero’s statement is very common.


9 posted on 09/15/2015 5:16:40 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
This thing will now, I think, be hushed. Vatican officials will – in pure Vatican style – run to the microphones and tell us how much everyone is behind Francis, thebelovedpopeofmercywhocaressomuchforthepoor. They will not expect to be believed. They will not want you to believe them. It will be another exercise in Vatican diplomacy. Like last October, when the bishops slapped him in the face one day and swore how orthodox he was the next.

I tend to agree. This will be like Vatican II. At best, they'll speak of "misinterpretations" and "ambiguities", but in the end it will be defended as "continuity" and merely a change in "discipline" via canon law.

You see it takes a non-Modernist to actually speak the Truth in the Vatican and it appears there is no one who fits that bill (yes, even the beloved Cardinal Burke). Until someone speaks the Truth about Vatican II (beyond the "ambiguity" line), this slippery slope will continue and Catholics who would otherwise be truly traditional will continue to go along just to get along.

10 posted on 09/16/2015 2:36:16 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: ebb tide

bumpus ad summum


11 posted on 09/16/2015 8:04:25 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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