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To: AppyPappy

>> Justice is receiving the proper punishment for your sins.

Progressive Christianity does not believe in sin or punishment. To them, the philosophy and teachings of “the one who came to be known as Jesus, the Christ” (their words, not mine) are adequate to teach you how to live a life of responsibility to others. The only real sin is failure to do that.

I had a lot of discussions with my UM pastor for several years. I could not believe what he was teaching, but he had his message down (after 28 years of saying the same stuff). Our discussions would usually end with him telling me that I am more Calvinist than Wesleyan, which is a great insult in the UMC.

Finally, I spent 6 month studying Calvinism as taught by actual Calvinists and realized that I actually AM a Calvinist.

So, I left and became a Presbyterian. Their theology makes sense and centers on God.


6 posted on 12/01/2015 1:58:15 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

Even Calvin wasn’t a Calvinist, just like Wesley wasn’t a Methodist.
Presbyterianism tends to downplay the roles of the Holy Spirit and is uneasy with Scripture when it comes to God having Free Will. That’s what I love about the Bible. It offends everyone’s beliefs. Remember, God said in the Noah story “I repent that I made man”.
I like being a Methodist because they know how to take a beating.


9 posted on 12/01/2015 6:35:29 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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