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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Jesus is the Lord given all by the father.

I'm sorry, FRiend. You have effective disqualified this as a possibility in your post #5. It cannot be had both ways. If you cannot prove that Mary is not today Queen of Heaven and Earth, men and angels, then you cannot prove that Jesus is or was ever anything and therefore your hope of salvation and the answering of any of your prayers is in vain.

13 posted on 12/20/2015 11:06:33 AM PST by o_1_2_3__ ( –)
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To: o_1_2_3__

There is no “Queen of Heaven” “I am the way, the truth and the life, and no man comes unto the father except by me.” -Jesus of Nazareth That is absolute proof.


19 posted on 12/20/2015 11:10:36 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: o_1_2_3__
If you cannot prove that Mary is not today Queen of Heaven and Earth, men and angels, then you cannot prove that Jesus is or was ever anything and therefore your hope of salvation and the answering of any of your prayers is in vain.

Stop being an @ss.

39 posted on 12/20/2015 11:37:56 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: o_1_2_3__
I'm sorry, FRiend. You have effective disqualified this as a possibility in your post #5. It cannot be had both ways. If you cannot prove that Mary is not today Queen of Heaven and Earth, men and angels, then you cannot prove that Jesus is or was ever anything and therefore your hope of salvation and the answering of any of your prayers is in vain.

Whoa....

Nobody is obligated to believe all claims unless disproved simply because someone says they are true.

Prove Mary IS * Queen of Heaven and Earth, men and angels*.

Proof of Jesus being who He said He was lies in Scripture, because God told us so in there.

Jesus being who He is does not hinge on Mary being who the Catholic church claims her to be.

You're making the wrong person important and placing the wrong person in preeminence in your scenario.

Show us from Scripture where that is taught and stated.

93 posted on 12/20/2015 4:54:29 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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