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To: Daniel Ramsey; Yollopoliuhqui; gundog
Daniel Ramsey: "i remember one story that the flood was actually a strait that collapsed, not sure if it was the Bosporus or Gibralter, may have been the latter as many flooded cities are found in the Mediteranean."

  1. Not so likely Gibralter, since that last collapsed 5.3 million years ago.

  2. Could have been the Bosporus straight into the Black Sea, circa 5,600 BC.
    Much evidence has been found of ancient village ruins now under many feet of Black Sea water.
    However, no other Biblical accounts are located in this area.

  3. So, even more likely was Persian Gulf flooding, as sea levels rose, circa 6,000 BC.
    Mesopotamia at the head of -- or now under -- the Persian Gulf seems a reasonable location for both Eden and Noah's flood.

20 posted on 01/07/2016 3:45:47 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
However, no other Biblical accounts are located in this area.

I was wondering about the effects of the collapse of the Bosporus on the Red Sea.

22 posted on 01/07/2016 3:55:56 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: BroJoeK
So, even more likely was Persian Gulf flooding, as sea levels rose, circa 6,000 BC. Mesopotamia at the head of -- or now under -- the Persian Gulf seems a reasonable location for both Eden and Noah's flood.

I think a likely scenario would be a tropical system holding together enough to rain out in the Zagros Mountains during an already wet year. One to three days of torrential rain, and the truly epic flooding lost nothing in the re-telling. I believe there is evidence of extreme flooding in that area ~6,000 years ago.

23 posted on 01/07/2016 4:08:46 PM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: BroJoeK; Fred Nerks; Yollopoliuhqui; gundog; Daniel Ramsey; SunkenCiv; All

Gibralter did not collapse, the low land between Gibralter and Africa was overflooded and scoured away. While something severe appears to have happened regarding the Black Sea, the Persian Gulf is more likely, especially given that the Jews were taken away to Babylon around 500 bce, where stories from the Persian Gulf may have gone into their thinking and bible writing. Graham Hancock is a good source for theories on ruins found Underwater. Here is a very long link to various maps I promised to look for. It includes the map Fred Nerks kindly posted.

https://www.google.com/search?num=50&newwindow=1&safe=off&sa=G&hl=en&tbs=simg:CAESzAEayQELEKjU2AQaAggEDAsQsIynCBphCl8IAxIn1AjVCPgKjwn8FUrSCP0V1xXVFf0o8iiZOfwopynuPrg39j7wKIs4GjBID0_108Bv7Fy_1vODEnVxCRx8BHIBCjohABVhL5SKUZCYbeZjp-IOJEM9QgSQP5a_10gAwwLEI6u_1ggaCgoICAESBGPqKWAMCxCd7cEJGjgKBQoDbWFwChEKD3dhdGVyIHJlc291cmNlcwoLCgllY29zeXN0ZW0KBgoEdGV4dAoHCgVmYXVuYQw&q=mediterranean+during+ice+age&tbm=isch&ved=0ahUKEwjpg__G3ZnKAhWJGz4KHbHSB1AQsw4ILA&biw=1600&bih=799


30 posted on 01/08/2016 12:13:11 AM PST by gleeaikin
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