[Salvation]

Didn’t he mention that it was just the use of condoms in these disease cases?

Still — for me, it counters Humanae Vitae.

[knarf]

Does this mean I'm welcome on the Catholic caucus threads ?

/8^)

In this thing called life, we all have a part in doing our best and using the brains God gave us

We non Catholics have OUR brains attuned to a Biblical frequency the Catholic can't (or won't try to) receive

Be that as it may ... there ARE common elements we can unite around

[Mrs. Don-o]

Go over the original FrancisQuotes on this one, and you'll see they are are ambiguous in the extreme. I don't know whether he's Elmer-Fuddishly skating down the cracking ice to the slushy edge of evil (which is --- well --- stupidity) or if he's being deliberately morally equivocal (intentionally insinuating evil--- which is evil.)

Whichever it is, this is no mere verbal foot-fault. It's by far his most destructive anti-pedagogy. In my judgment, this is qualitatively different from the rest of his pastoral malpractice: it's an effective inducement into evil.

This cuts to the core. I am flabbergasted that the Filipino Bishops would do a 180 degree turn on this and head themselves straight to hell.