[xzins]

I have ministered in this denomination for decades now and this sickens me. The issues read like the democratic party platform.

I hope they again turn down the homosexualist agenda, but I really feel called away from the denomination.

It simply doesn’t feel like ‘home’.

To paraphrase Hebrewws, I suppose I seek a better city whose builder and maker is God.

[fwdude]

This is the strategy of these homo-leftist parasites which burrow into a denomination: Make small incremental leftist policy changes over many years and decades, causing the most ardent Christians to flee to saner quarters, and thereby making further changes possible by a steady decrease in the opposition.

That United Methodism has repelled "official" recognition and affirmation of homosexual conduct in the past is no indication of what they'll do in today's "church," which is even more infested with godless leftists than ever before.

[ntnychik]

I will be lay rep from my church to my fourth UM regional conference in June. My first year, some incremental gay-supported issues were put on the agenda, debated from the floor the same way as all agenda items, and resoundingly defeated.

Year 2 featured the pro-gay agenda supporters wearing rainbow ties or collars. The pro LGBTQs sponsored a booth in the display area and chanted like they were right out of 1968. Another resounding no vote.

Last year, we were Delphi’d. The conference workshops all were cancelled in favor of carefully planned discussion groups. I arrived early to hear instructions given to the “facilitators,” first clue the Delphi Method is in use.
They were told to remove their rainbow gear and take care not to reveal their position. When they dispersed, at least two went to each table of eight. Most of the session was a listening tour. There was no direct indoctrination. Instead, they tried to build warm fuzzy feelings toward each other, and gain affirmation of “the process.”

There was no floor debate last year. A binding secret ballot was handed out at our discussion tables. No proposition was listed. They referred to a fine-print monstrosity available only if you’d read the district website in advance.
Fortunately, a woman at our table had brought a printed copy. Our session ended with a touchy-feely survey on the process, and how well we liked each other.

This process resulted in a flip from 60-40 the previous year against the incremental gay agenda items to 60-40 in favor. The results were quietly announced early the next morning as most people were just arriving.

Frankly, I continue to attend as a subversive. Someone has to expose them and their methods, don’t they? Until it’s pointless. Perhaps that’s where you are, xzins. I may not be far behind.

[Fred Hayek]

Now is a whirlwind going to pay a visit to the meeting like it did to a certain ELCA gathering in Minneapolis?