Posted on 08/28/2016 2:41:41 PM PDT by Salvation
Ah, that makes sense.
You shouldn’t put your faith in clergy. Ever. I’m Italian...this we know from long, long experience. :)
Anyway, you should go not because of the clergy but because a) God is God, and He deserves to be adored in the way that He himself ordained at the Last Supper, and because b) you need the grace that comes from receiving the Blessed Sacrament.
Right. The best case scenario is that the Holy Spirit is convicting the congregation, either toward salvation or living a better Christian life.
Amen, Cato! On the dress up issue, it’s great for those who show honor in that way. For the gathering we have started attending in our new home town, we are delighted to see scraggly and flip-flops as they are often being worn by people who have almost nothing and are searching - for spiritual and basic human needs to be met. I absolutely believe you would welcome the same folks into your congregation.
But as I said above, a couple of bad apples does not mean that the entire church has gone bad.
Look around. I bet you will find a LCMS church that is true to the Word of God.
clique, not click.
My brain is fried, probably have early stages of Alzheimer.
We have three separate choirs.
One does chant; one does some of the modern songs and one tends to follow, (but not always) the modern road.
All the choirs are working the chant into certain parts of the Mass 00 so this is good.
PS. And our parish is growing by leaps and bounds.
I think that was the ELCA, not the LCMS of WELS.
I've seen people come into church with a load of issues only to leave because they've felt shut out. I had one man say to me a few years ago that I was the only one from the church who made an effort to say hello to him.
So. Do you need the other members of the Body? Tagline.
For as the body is one, and has many members; and all the members of the body, whereas they are many, yet are one body, so also is Christ.<
For the body also is not one member, but many.
If the foot should say, because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
And if the ear should say, because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
If the whole body were the eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling?
But now God has set the members every one of them in the body as it hath pleased him.
And if they all were one member, where would be the body?
But now there are many members indeed, yet one body.
And the eye cannot say to the hand: I need not thy help; nor again the head to the feet: I have no need of you.
That there might be no schism in the body; but the members might be mutually careful one for another.
And if one member suffer any thing, all the members suffer with it; or if one member glory, all the members rejoice with it.
Now you are the body of Christ, and members mutually of one another.
Maybe make a day of it travelling to the service you like.
Find a good restaurant around there. Or if you have friends.
I'd love to hear that or even that old time gospel music.
There is only salvation...everything else is headed for hell.
Another 50 percent said they stopped believing in the particular tenets of the faith they were raised in.
Churches are not following their own hard won doctrine
Salvation is right, GinK. Surely there must be some LCMS churches that aren’t corrupted. Listen to our fellow brother in Christ, G.
It doesn’t sound “hard” or harsh. You’re correct. However, if a Christian (someone who has been saved) is backsliding, the Holy Sprit can convict him to change his ways, i.e., “live a better Christian life”.
"We should not stop gathering together with other believers, as some of you are doing. Instead, we must continue to encourage each other even more as we see the day of the Lord coming."
We need you.
Good quote! Thanks so much.
“I’d love to hear that or even that old time gospel music.”
For a few years we “settled” for the more modern church services with Contemporary “Christian” music, airy-fairy sermons, and casual services. We moved in June and are thrilled to have found a traditional church that’s much like the churches of the ‘50s and ‘60s. They use actual hymnals and sing hymns like, “My Sins Are Blotted Out I Know”, “There Is A Fountain”, “Stepping In The Light”, “Amazing Grace” (the way it’s written, not all funky and theatrical), “My Faith Has Found A Resting Place”.
Sermons are great, 100% Bible based, with no tap-dancing around issues, whether religious or political. They’re respectful and dignified. Members dress appropriately for church. The children behave perfectly.
Prior to that, the reason why we considered not going to church at all was because all the Baptist churches we’d found in our area of TN have gone “off the deep end” and modern.
Here's the evidence:
Acts 20:7
"And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them"
This was because the Lord rose from the dead on the First Day, and that changed everything.
To me it was never the sexual abuse, that drove me off. I expected them to do something about it, and for the most part they have. Now I simply don’t recognize the churches, and what they stand for, besides socialism, and sodomy.
They are sending aid to muslims without making any effort to convert them. The call it humanitarian...I call it crazy. They won’t attack Mad Mo for the degenerate he was, for the disgusting antics of his followers.
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