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Pastor Andy Stanley says the Bible is too hard to defend
Creation Ministries International ^ | 9-22-16 | Lita Cosner and Scott Gillis

Posted on 09/22/2016 10:45:55 AM PDT by fishtank

Pastor Andy Stanley says the Bible is too hard to defend

Evangelical pastor preaches that the Bible isn’t the foundation for the Christian faith

by Lita Cosner and Scott Gillis

Published: 22 September 2016 (GMT+10)

Andy Stanley has a church network of over 30,000 people in the Atlanta area, and his church was rated the fastest-growing in America in 2014 and 2015.1 Recently, he has been criticized by many evangelicals for saying that we need to take the focus off the Bible and put it on the Resurrection, because he claims that gives us a firmer foundation for our faith. As Stanley put it: “We believe Jesus rose from the dead not because the Bible says so. It is way better than that! Christianity does not hang by the thread of ‘The Bible told me so’.”2 And: “The original version [of Christianity], the pre-Bible version, was defensible, it was endurable, it was persecutable, it was fearless, it was compassionate, and it was compelling,” but he claims “it is next to impossible to defend the entire Bible”.2

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science; Theology
KEYWORDS: andystanley; bible; biblehistory; blasphemy; grievouswolves; stanley; ybpdln
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1 posted on 09/22/2016 10:45:55 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

Another grievous wolf.


2 posted on 09/22/2016 10:47:18 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: fishtank

One reason Stanley argues we need this change in perspective is that Scripture is too hard to defend:

“What your students have discovered, and if you read broadly you’ve discovered, it is next to impossible to defend the entire Bible. But if your Christianity hangs by the thread of proving that everything in the Bible is true, you may be able to hang onto it, but your kids and your grandkids and the next generation will not. Because this puts the Bible at the center of the debate. This puts the spotlight right on the Bible. Everything rises and falls on whether not part, but all the Bible is true. And that’s unfortunate, and as we’re going to discover today, it is absolutely unnecessary.”2

Among the things he specifically states are indefensible and not supported by evidence:

Israel’s Exodus from Egypt

The walls in Jericho fell down

The earth is 6,000 years old

The chronological information in 1, 2 Kings, 1, 2 Chronicles, and 1, 2, Samuel

The global flood in Noah’s day


3 posted on 09/22/2016 10:47:34 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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Pretty much all those items were ENDORSED by Jesus Himself.


4 posted on 09/22/2016 10:48:04 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

He has itching ears.


5 posted on 09/22/2016 10:49:05 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: fishtank

If you interpret the bible literally it is literally impossible to interpret the bible.

I saw that on another site and think it is spot on. Heck, Paul “appears” to contradict himself in the same chapter sometimes if you ignore context.

The bible is a lot like Yogi Berra when he said, regarding a restaurant, “nobody goes there any more because it’s too crowded.” The words make no sense, except we all know exactly what he means. :-)


6 posted on 09/22/2016 10:49:46 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: fishtank

Easy to defend if you have the intellectual honesty and imagination to try to look at the context of human existance when the various parts of scripture were written. People who try to judge history through 2016 lenses are dishonest mental midgets.


7 posted on 09/22/2016 10:50:35 AM PDT by BRL
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To: fishtank

A great thinker. /s


8 posted on 09/22/2016 10:51:50 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (when the MSM wants your opinion, they will give it to you Leary is this)
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To: fishtank

Perhaps he should ride in the bible bus with J Vernon McGee.


9 posted on 09/22/2016 10:51:50 AM PDT by FES0844
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Has Stanley ever been queried on his opinion of the Koran, I wonder?


10 posted on 09/22/2016 10:52:07 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: fishtank

The Bible is easy to defend, as long as the people are open-minded. If he thinks it is difficult to defend, he should enlist with the Unitarians...


11 posted on 09/22/2016 10:52:19 AM PDT by heterosupremacist ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." (Thomas Jefferson))
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To: fishtank

” it is next to impossible to defend the entire Bible.”

Why? Does he have evidence that it isn’t true? Are those things to great for even God to do?

And we don’t know the age if the Earth. That’s just some person’s guess.


12 posted on 09/22/2016 10:52:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: fishtank

IT’S IN THE BOOK. THAT’S THE WAY IT WILL BE.


13 posted on 09/22/2016 10:52:43 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: fishtank

The bible never claims to be the center of Christianity. Rather, it says it is very useful for teaching, etc. The early church had no new testament, but a lot of people were saved.

Prayer and a relationship with Him through the spirit is most important. The bible is a nice teaching tool. One can be a Christian without ever seeing a bible. One can not be a Christian without a relationship with Him.


14 posted on 09/22/2016 10:54:01 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: fishtank

False teacher.

I am fearful enough of my own judgment, I wouldn’t want to witness his.


15 posted on 09/22/2016 10:55:12 AM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: fishtank

I’d heard he’d had a lapse of judgement a few years ago and was probably involved in some sort of overwhelming sin. I’m guessing the enemy has taken over his life during this season. Spiritual warfare is real and he desperately needs our prayers.


16 posted on 09/22/2016 10:55:59 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: fishtank

Truth does not need any defense, not from Andy Stanley or from me.


17 posted on 09/22/2016 10:56:30 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: fishtank

Well at least he clearly identified himself as a false teacher. The Bible stands on its own as our sole authority for all matters of faith and practice regardless of whether Andy can defend it or not. Voltaire didn’t pretend he believed.


18 posted on 09/22/2016 10:56:42 AM PDT by refreshed
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To: fishtank

Well at least he clearly identified himself as a false teacher. The Bible stands on its own as our sole authority for all matters of faith and practice regardless of whether Andy can defend it or not. Voltaire didn’t pretend he believed.


19 posted on 09/22/2016 10:56:45 AM PDT by refreshed
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To: fishtank

Yeah, that’ll build the Kingdom....NOT. What a fool.


20 posted on 09/22/2016 10:57:17 AM PDT by tioga ( Not my monkey, not my circus.)
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