About the same time most of the family was realizing that "our" ELCA - which is neither evangelical nor Lutheran, and doesn't actually like America all that much - was rotting from the head down, we were great admirers of JPII. We bemoan Francis.
The ELCA's apostasy is now essentially complete, and the Catholic Church hierarchy appears to have gotten a copy of the "lukewarm Lutheran" playbook.
Mr. niteowl77
Agreed.