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In response to Trump, Vatican official says church should be prophetic
National Catholic Reporter ^ | November 12, 2016 | Thomas Reese

Posted on 11/14/2016 10:46:59 AM PST by ebb tide

In response to the election of Donald Trump, the pope’s representative in the United States believes that the church needs "to assume a prophetic role." Speaking at a luncheon at Georgetown University discussing nuclear disarmament, Archbishop Christophe Pierre acknowledged that "the pope is more prophetic than the Catholic bishops here today."

For example, on refugees, he said, "we have not done much, to be honest with you, on the issue of refugees in the United States. And we could do much more."

"We [the Vatican] can send some ideas, and these ideas have to be thought about in the bishops’ conference," he said. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops "is the place to express the vision of the Catholic bishops."

The USCCB begins its annual fall meeting on Monday, Nov. 14 in Baltimore, where the nuncio, Archbishop Pierre will address the bishops.

The "worst aspect" of Trump is his "unpredictability," said Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, former Vatican representative to U.N. agencies in Geneva from 2003-2015 and now secretary of the new Vatican office for Promoting Integral Human Development.

Light-of-Truth-friends-2016.jpgNCR's award-winning reporting and commentary are possible because of support from people like you. Give today. Nor did Hillary Clinton lack for criticism. "Pope Francis is fighting against ideology," noted Pierre. "I was amazed to listen to the last speech of Mrs. Clinton on television — this is complete ideology. The lady has not understood a thing. It is terrible. This is why she failed. She is enclosed in ideology."

He recalled that for Pope Francis, reality is more important than ideas. "But you know, our politicians here remain at the level of ideas. It is frightening. She has not, they have not listened."

The invitation only luncheon for about a dozen academics and activists working on nuclear disarmament was hosted by the office of the president of Georgetown in a room with oil paintings of old Jesuit cardinals looking down on the participants.

The keynote address by Tomasi was a depressing report on the continued presence of nuclear weapons, the danger of their use, and the lack of progress on disarmament negotiations.

"At present, there are nine nuclear states that possess an estimated 17,000 nuclear weapons," he reported. Rather than moving toward disarmament, "The United States has a comprehensive program for the next three decades which will cost around $3 billion." Meanwhile, "Russia has deployed tactical missiles in Kaliningrad."

He noted that President-elect Trump supported the option of a nuclear South Korea. The consequences of nuclear proliferation in the region "could be catastrophic," he said.

Tomasi said that risks and dangers of nuclear weapons are imminent if the path of disarmament is not taken today. He agrees with William J. Perry who in My Journey at the Nuclear Brink wrote, "A nuclear nightmare such as I have dramatized could become a tragic reality if we do not take the necessary preventative actions now."

The former nuncio complained that "the United Nations Conference on Disarmament has been in a deadlock for over 20 years," and is not even able to adopt an agenda.

He quoted Pope Francis who said that "Nuclear deterrence and the threat of mutually assured destruction cannot be the basis of an ethic of solidarity and peaceful coexistence between peoples and states." Continuing to quote Pope Francis, the archbishop said, "Peace must be built on justice, socio-economic development, freedom, respect for fundamental human rights, the participation of all in public affairs and the building of trust between peoples."

Catholic University Professor Maryann Cusimano Love, a self-professed optimist, wondered whether the Trump presidency might provide a unique opportunity for further reductions in nuclear weapons. "It’s a very scary nuclear world," she told The New York Times. "Biggest problem, to me, in the world, is nuclear, and proliferation."

Love noted that it is reported that his uncle, John Trump, a nuclear physicist, many years ago explained to a young Trump the dangers of nuclear weapons. Trump himself has asked why we are making them if we will never use them. Plus, a nuclear deal with Russian president Vladimir Putin would provide a foreign policy success that would confound his opponents by proving himself to be the great negotiator that he claims to be.

Pierre agreed that the Catholic church in America should push nuclear issues with the new administration as part of its prophetic role. Others at the luncheon were not as optimistic as Love that a breakthrough on nuclear disarmament might be possible under a President Trump but they agreed that they must continue to push for it.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: francischurch; illegals; pierre
Before anybody dismisses this article because it's from the National Fishwrap, keep in mind that Archbishop Christophe Pierre is Bergoglio's apostolic nuncio to the U.S.
1 posted on 11/14/2016 10:46:59 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

It sure would be awesome if, as an aside to all the awesomeness qalready en route, Trump just comes out and calls the current commie Pope a commie Pope.


2 posted on 11/14/2016 10:48:52 AM PST by T-Bone Texan (The time is now to form up into leaderless cells of 5 men or less.)
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To: ebb tide

I agree that the Catholic Church is prophetic but probably not the way the author intends.


3 posted on 11/14/2016 10:49:27 AM PST by BipolarBob (Hillary "Elect me and every Tuesday will be Soylent Green day!".)
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To: ebb tide

They have an odd concept of “prophesy”


4 posted on 11/14/2016 10:49:42 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ebb tide
Has anyone ever looked at the US Catholic Bishop's website? Good grief, they have their ‘charities’ for their illegal invasion plugged into the tax payers treasury... and then have the nerve to call their dollars from US ‘charities’... Their ‘pay to play’ foundation makes Bill and Hillry’s scam look like child's play.
5 posted on 11/14/2016 10:51:57 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: ebb tide
...the pope’s representative in the United States believes that the church needs "to assume a prophetic role."...

What does that even mean? You're either prophetic or you're not prophetic. It's not something you can choose to become. Representatives of the Church presuming that they can "assume a prophetic role" in anything is the height of hubris.

6 posted on 11/14/2016 10:55:53 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: ebb tide

I think that is liberation theology talk.


7 posted on 11/14/2016 10:56:47 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: ebb tide

8 posted on 11/14/2016 10:58:22 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: ebb tide

What is it the Vatican official is trying not to say?
If he has to be this vague, best to remain silent.


9 posted on 11/14/2016 11:11:05 AM PST by lee martell
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To: ebb tide

I think this article is a victim of auto-correct spelling. Didn’t they mean to say, the pope is pathetic?


10 posted on 11/14/2016 11:19:48 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: ebb tide

“we have not done much, to be honest with you, on the issue of refugees in the United States. And we could do much more.”

Trump should grant asylum status to persecuted minorities (Christians, Jews, other non-Muslim sects) in Sharia law nations.

America used to do this went it still stood for liberty


11 posted on 11/14/2016 11:32:39 AM PST by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: ebb tide; All
"Before anybody dismisses this article because it's from the National Fishwrap, keep in mind that Archbishop Christophe Pierre is Bergoglio's apostolic nuncio to the U.S. "

Trump’s common-sense plan to vet aliens and stop potential troublemakers from entering the country reflects on Jesus’ words of Luke 13:24-27.

12 posted on 11/14/2016 11:42:14 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: T-Bone Texan

It’s time get rid of this fake Pope.


13 posted on 11/14/2016 11:44:22 AM PST by angcat (TRUMP!)
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To: ebb tide

Very little respect for the Pope from this very religious Catholic. He is part of the problem not the solution.

He seems much more concerned with politics than with proclaiming the teachings and religion of Jesus Christ.


14 posted on 11/14/2016 12:04:46 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: WayneS
Maybe they should take away the Pope's Ouija Board.
15 posted on 11/14/2016 12:18:40 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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