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The Meanest Thing Jesus Ever Said
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 11-17-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 11/18/2016 7:27:10 AM PST by Salvation

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1 posted on 11/18/2016 7:27:10 AM PST by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 11/18/2016 7:28:18 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I’m not Catholic, but FWIW, I always thought the meanest things were what Jesus said in Matthew 23:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt+23&version=GNT

However, I think this passage points out that when God does judge man, He won’t be doing so regretfully. Those who die in their sins, still rejecting God, face wrath.

As a corollary, we ought to take from this how God views sin - and then try to view sin in our lives the same way. I tend to make excuses for my sin. God does not.


3 posted on 11/18/2016 7:35:15 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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To: Salvation

Luke 19
26 “He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away.

Sounds much like capitalism... definitely not the Democrat party ideology

Imagine if Trump followed Jesus’ teachings!!!

27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”


4 posted on 11/18/2016 7:36:35 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Salvation

Well, is *this* ever a relevant article!


5 posted on 11/18/2016 7:39:25 AM PST by To Hell With Poverty (I support a woman's right to lose.)
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To: Salvation

I read it many times, and I thought it a simple warning not to be a traitor!

Those people were subjects of the king; when he was not present, they plotted against him, simple treason.

When he came back, he did not tolerate their treason.


6 posted on 11/18/2016 7:40:10 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Mr Rogers

If Truth counts, Jesus was/is a mean Man!!!!!!


7 posted on 11/18/2016 7:41:40 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

a mean man or a tough man.


8 posted on 11/18/2016 8:03:23 AM PST by goat granny
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To: Salvation
Who would Jesus torture? Jesus would torture mean who had their debts forgiven but refused to forgive the debts of their own debtors.

From Matthew 18, via the NASB translation:

23 “For this reason the kingdom of heaven [v]may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. 24 When he had begun to settle them, one who owed him [w]ten thousand talents was brought to him. 25 But since he [x]did not have the means to repay, his lord commanded him to be sold, along with his wife and children and all that he had, and repayment to be made. 26 So the slave fell to the ground and prostrated himself before him, saying, ‘Have patience with me and I will repay you everything.’ 27 And the lord of that slave felt compassion and released him and forgave him the [y]debt. 28 But that slave went out and found one of his fellow slaves who owed him a hundred [z]denarii; and he seized him and began to choke him, saying, ‘Pay back what you owe.’ 29 So his fellow slave fell to the ground and began to plead with him, saying, ‘Have patience with me and I will repay you.’ 30 But he was unwilling [aa]and went and threw him in prison until he should pay back what was owed. 31 So when his fellow slaves saw what had happened, they were deeply grieved and came and reported to their lord all that had happened. 32 Then summoning him, his lord *said to him, ‘You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33 Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?’ 34 And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. 35 My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from [ab]your heart.”

9 posted on 11/18/2016 8:15:32 AM PST by mbarker12474
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To: marktwain
"A nobleman went off to a distant country to obtain the kingship for himself and then to return. His fellow citizens, however, despised him and sent a delegation after him to announce, “We do not want this man to be our king.” But when he returned after obtaining the kingship … [he said] “Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me” (Luke 19:12,14, 27-28)."

Do we have a parallel here?

Trump, a businessman and non-politician decided to run for president. Many of his fellow Republicans despised him because of his success and called themselves “Never-Trumpers". They said we do not want Trump to be our President and we will help Hillary to be elected. But when Trump won the presidency, he said, “Now as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be president, bring them here so that they may be interviewed for jobs within my administration. And the great Pence shall weigh their qualifications and motivations and if he finds that they are not suitable, he shall slay their political careers before me.

10 posted on 11/18/2016 8:28:13 AM PST by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: fireman15

I like it.

It makes sense...


11 posted on 11/18/2016 8:31:36 AM PST by marktwain
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To: goat granny

A man’s Man....


12 posted on 11/18/2016 8:55:18 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: tired&retired

It is part of capitalism. There’s a very capitalistic proverb, or aphorism that captures the sentiment of this parable of Talents — “Use it, or lose it.” Similarly, it is said, “Nothing ventured, nothing gained.”

Old sayings don’t get to be old sayings by being stupid.

Further, to the point of Jesus’ parable, He is foretelling the one and only reason for the Church’s existence (following the New Birth, or salvation, of course): being useful to God, expressly in His purpose of increasing the harvest of souls into the Kingdom! Obviously, people who just get saved only to sit back, live life, hoping to just run out the clock, are not especially commendable. That is the point.


13 posted on 11/18/2016 9:01:01 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great- -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: tired&retired

“A bigly winner went off to a distant country to obtain the presidency for himself and then to return. His fellow Republicans, however, despised him and sent a delegation after him to announce, “We do not want this man to be our nominee.” But when he returned after obtaining the presidency … [he said] “Now those losers who didn’t want me for POTUS (even though I’ve treated them very very nicely — sad!)...Get ‘em outta’ here and knock the crap out of their political careers!” (Trump 19:12,14, 27-28).


14 posted on 11/18/2016 9:08:44 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: fireman15

Good parallel.


15 posted on 11/18/2016 9:09:48 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I see what you did there ~ well done!


16 posted on 11/18/2016 9:35:37 AM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Clever, clever!


17 posted on 11/18/2016 11:08:41 AM PST by marktwain
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To: trebb
my dad said its ok to be tough, don;t ever be mean.....there is a difference. He was wise and told me many things. He only said it once, so you better remember well. Another one, never point a gun at anyone unless you fully intend to pull the trigger....never pull the trigger unless you fully intend to kill. He was a Detroit cop, retired in 1950...
18 posted on 11/18/2016 11:53:41 AM PST by goat granny
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To: fireman15
Trump knows how to get things done. If he can't do it himself he finds someone who can.

And,

HE DOESN'T OWE ANYBODY ANYTHING. THAT is an enormous +++PLUS+++.

19 posted on 11/18/2016 12:22:30 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: goat granny
You're Dad sounds a lot like mine. My Dad taught me many useful lessons even while I was rebelling as a teenager and they mostly sunk in and stuck. He had a zest for life and an insistence that being able to laugh at yourself was a crucial life-skill. He taught me gun safety early and when I was 10 he showed me how to field strip a 1911 .45. When he put it back together he told me to see how far I could get. I squatted down (he had put a newspaper on the floor to make it more like a field condition) and started pushing on the front spring when my butt and nose became uncomfortable (he kicked me in the butt and I toppled forward - the kick was enough to get my attention but not harm me). When I blustered about "what the heck", he told me I hadn't checked it to see if it was loaded. It didn't matter what I thought I saw - it wasn't empty until I verified it. Not sure if he palmed it or not, but he produced a shell for effect. Here it is, 54 years later and I have NEVER put my hands on another weapon without checking it.

I can feel the respect for your Dad in your post.

20 posted on 11/19/2016 3:38:18 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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