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Christian computer scientist: World will end this month when Jesus returns to destroy planet
Newsline.com ^ | 9 December 2016 | Patrick Griffin

Posted on 12/15/2016 11:49:04 AM PST by amorphous

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To: Mr. M.J.B.
The American/UN delegitimization of Eretz Yisrael vote (just before the period) and now Cold War-esque expelling of Russians.

Moving toward Moshiach ben David. :)

161 posted on 12/29/2016 11:17:19 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous; Mr. M.J.B.; cyn; left that other site
People will continue to go around in circles because of faulty premises.

Take the phrase "daily sacrifice" for example. Now while it is true that "tamid" is an adjective describing the continual sacrifices, and the tractate Tamid describes the routine, nowhere in the Bible - say for these few times in the book of Daniel - is tamid used as a stand alone noun. "Ha-tamid" is simply "the daily", "the continual", IOW the whatever-it-is that goes on day-after-day, is perpetual, established as routine, not subject to change, and so forth.

08548 tamiyd {taw-meed'}
from an unused root meaning to stretch; TWOT - 1157a; n m

AV - continually 53, continual 26, daily 7, always 6, alway 4, ever 3,
perpetual 2, continual employment 1, evermore 1, never 1; 104

1) continuity, perpetuity, to stretch
1a) continually, continuously (as adverb)
1b) continuity (subst)

I won't detour into the etymologies that derive tamid from words such as mid/mad/madad (to measure), but it's easy to see the connect as far a stretching a line. Also, a "measure" of a man could be expressed as a function of how he lives his life on a continual basis, how he treats others by his daily choices and personal sacrifices and so forth.

With "sacrifice" read into and added to the text, a cottage industry of 'physical rebuilt Jewish temple' end-times books and merchandise was born. The usual Christian interpretations of Daniel start with the assumption that "ha-tamid" (written in isolation as a definite noun) = the continual burnt offering in the Temple. Now it *could* be, but that is not in the text.

Meanwhile,

Kerry bemoans conflict's status quo

Kerry lamented the status quo in Israel and the Palestinian territories, drawing on personal experiences as he criticized Israeli and Palestinian actions he said hurt chances for a two-state solution.

He pointed to the conflict's impact on children in both Israel and the Palestinian territories -- from Israeli children facing rocket fire and must rush to shelter at the sounding of a siren, to destruction in the Gaza Strip, where he said he remembered seeing Palestinian children playing in the rubble.

Kerry argued that current Israeli settlement policy in the region was leading toward a future of "one state and perpetual occupation" and slammed the arguments of right-wing Israeli officials who argue settlements are aimed at bolstering Israel's security.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/26/politics/john-kerry-middle-east-peace-plan/

status quo
Latin, state in which

the existing state of affairs

Legal Definition of status quo

: the existing state of affairs; specifically : the last actual and uncontested state of affairs that preceded a controversy and that is to be preserved by preliminary injunction — compare status quo ante

UN Resolution 2334

Stressing that the status quo is not sustainable and that significant steps, consistent with the transition contemplated by prior agreements, are urgently needed in order to

(i) stabilize the situation and to reverse negative trends on the ground, which are steadily eroding the two-State solution and entrenching a one-State reality, and

(ii) to create the conditions for successful final status negotiations and for advancing the two-State solution through those negotiations and on the ground,

1. Reaffirms that the establishment by Israel of settlements in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, has no legal validity and constitutes a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the achievement of the two-State solution and a just, lasting and comprehensive peace;

http://www.un.org/webcast/pdfs/SRES2334-2016.pdf

"Ha-tamid" is simply "the daily", "the continual", IOW the whatever-it-is that goes on day-after-day, is perpetual, not subject to change, and so forth.

Chanukah celebrates the rededication of the Temple after it was defiled by the Greeks. Jews were supposed to agree with and adapt to a new, enlightened way...

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry laid out his vision for peace between Israel and the Palestinians Wednesday. In the more than hourlong address, Kerry criticized Jewish settlements in the West Bank as an impediment to peace.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/28/507269412/john-kerry-defends-two-state-solution-rebukes-israel-settlements

A "two-state" solution is like night and day, or evening and morning occupying the same space at the same time. A delusional vision. Quantum weirdness, forced upon observable, functional reality by self-anointed visionaries like John Kerry.

Even the wording of the resolution acknowledges a one-state reality. The Theory of Everything = The state of Israel.

Gen 12

1. And the Lord had said to Abram, Get out from your country, and from your family, and from your father's house, to a land that I will show you:
2. And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you, and make your name great; and you shall be a blessing:
3. And I will bless those who bless you, and curse him who curses you; and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed:

The UN wants two-states, and they are going to get a "two states": Joseph and Judah working together side-by-side to create a just and lasting solution, just like the nations united against Israel say they want.

*Trumped.*

Time is short.

162 posted on 12/30/2016 9:06:54 AM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: editor-surveyor; Ezekiel; Mr. M.J.B.
For reference, I came across a detailed discussion concerning confusion surrounding the 49/50 year Jubilee cycle: https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/60333/the-mystery-of-the-lost-jubilee-part-ix-one-two-fifty-opinion/#JJvpKOQDkJquuY0M.97 while researching a Jubilee prophecy attributed to Judah Ben Samuel (also known as Yehudah Hachassid) - another prophecy calling for this period in history to be of great significance.

The author(s) conclusion:

"We have grounded this series of article on the amazing events of November/December 1917 and June 1967, which were 49 ½ years apart. On our standard Gregorian calendar, those events seem to be 50 years apart which satisfies the 50ers, yet on the Hebrew calendar they fall 49 years apart which satisfies the 49ers! Based on that pattern:

● If something amazing happens to Israel between now and October 2, 2016, the end of the current Jewish year, then the 49ers could claim a sequence of three important events with Jubilees repeating every 49 years.
● If something amazing happens between January 1, 2017 and December 31, 2017, then the 50ers could claim a sequence of three important events with Jubilees repeating every 50 years.
● There are a few other combinations possible, as have been mentioned by readers, such as what if something happens between October 3, 2016 and December 31, 2016, or what if amazing events happen in both 2016 and 2017! We may deal with those too in the future."

163 posted on 01/07/2017 9:10:25 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous

On Yovel, 49, & 50: http://www.aish.com/h/o/t/Who-Knows-50.html

Authentic, authoritative knowledge, 54 footnotes, book excerpt.

7 - physical
8 - supernatural

7 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 7 = 49
7 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 7 + 7 + *8* = 50


164 posted on 01/07/2017 9:52:40 PM PST by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: amorphous

The Gregorian calendar is *worse than worthless* for trying to understand anything ‘Biblical.’

The recent lunar tetrad ‘blood moons’ appeared on Pesach, Succos, Pesach, Succos: extremely significant. The Gregorian dates? Meaningless.

“And God made the two great luminaries: the great luminary to rule the day and the lesser luminary to rule the night...” Gotta use both (lunar-solar calendar)!


Amazing things are happening to Israel right now - the promises of DJT and the UN abstain vote to name two.


165 posted on 01/07/2017 10:31:05 PM PST by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: amorphous; Ezekiel; Mr. M.J.B.

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The author of that piece is devoid of understanding of Yehova’s calendar, which runs from Aviv to Aviv, and has little in common with the Rabinical calendar, which is by their own admission Babylonian in nature, nor the roman calendars, which are solar in nature.

Yehova’s calendar is agricultural, and counts all of its months from new moon to new moon. Yehova’s calendar can sometimes have 14 months, but normally has 12.

While the true calendar begins in the spring, at the Aviv, the Jubilees run from Yom Teruah to yom Teruah, thus rendering schemes concocted by these uninformed guessers nothing but entertainment.

We can definitely count on an event at or near Yom Teruah 6017 (2017 Roman) that will result in another return of land to Israel.
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166 posted on 01/07/2017 11:01:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mr. M.J.B.; amorphous

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Lunar eclipses are not the blood moon of prophecy.

That blood moon will be deep red, not pale vermillion like an eclypse, and will be caused by most likely nuclear fallout, or a huge fire near Jerusalem.

The eclipses are all noted in Talmudic writings, and without anything notable attached to them “prophetically.”
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167 posted on 01/07/2017 11:08:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mr. M.J.B.
Thanks!

I think the actual observation of the 50th (Yovel/Jubilee) year doesn't really apply in this case - where she is trying show a pattern for 70 sevens (Jubilee cycles) in reference to Daniel's 70 year prophecy.

“Seventy weeks [sevens/shevuim] are determined upon your people and upon your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”

So basically, she has found a pattern whereby the "seven" sevens may also mean a 49 year Jubilee cycle (less the actual Jubilee year of observing), and she begins her count when the children of Israel enter the Holy Land.

This dual pattern is not something unseen before, in that other shadow pictures of repeating patterns of events are prevalent throughout the scriptures, and actually gives us greater confidence in the accuracy of prophecy.

To date, part of Daniel's seventy shevium prophecy has precisely been fulfilled, from when Araxerxes commanded the rebuilding of Jerusalem [around 457 BC], it was rebuilt in 49 years (seven weeks/shavium) [around 408 BC] , followed by the appearance of "Messiah the Prince" 62 "weeks" or 434 years later [around 28 AD], for a total of 69 weeks/shavium out of the 70 weeks - precisely as Daniel had predicted or was told by the Angel.

Left to be fulfilled is the remaining week. I believe this may be both a seven year period of time and a 49 year (Jubilee cycle) time frame, as she seems to have discovered. If true, can the 49 year cycle be used, based on recent historical events, to help us better understand the much harder to understand 7 year time frame?

"Daniel 9:27 gives the answer, “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”

1947 - Israel becomes a nation again.
1967 - Jerusalem back under Jewish control (Jubilee year).
1993 - Oslo accords (midst of the Jubilee).
2017 - Jubilee year and one generation (70 years) after the nation of Israel is reestablished.

Is there not a pattern here? :)

168 posted on 01/07/2017 11:15:32 PM PST by amorphous
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To: editor-surveyor
We can definitely count on an event at or near Yom Teruah 6017 (2017 Roman) that will result in another return of land to Israel.

On 6017 being significant, we are in complete agreement. As to the author being completely devoid of understanding, while I agree she may lack some understanding (don't we all), I think she may be on to something with her 49 year cycle beginning when the children of Israel entered the promised land.

169 posted on 01/07/2017 11:25:37 PM PST by amorphous
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To: editor-surveyor
Lunar eclipses are not the blood moon of prophecy.

I agree they are not "THE" blood moon, as that comes about as a result of the tribulation/woe which is yet to occur on the earth.

I do find it significant, in way of a sign in the heavens, that the four recurring lunar eclipses seem to be precursors to significant events for the Jewish nation. :)

170 posted on 01/07/2017 11:33:59 PM PST by amorphous
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To: amorphous; Ezekiel; Lera
Theological differences aside, I think you'll find this rabbi's timeline and current event interpretations interesting (and worth following) as we race toward...

A sampling:

Rabbi Pinchas Winston, a noted Torah expert on the end of days, told Breaking Israel News that the international conflict surrounding Jerusalem as described in Zechariah is a necessary element of the Messianic process. Rabbi Winston cited Leviticus Rabbah, a homiletic commentary on the Book of Leviticus, which states, “Three times in the future Gog and Magog will war with Israel and go up against Jerusalem. They will assemble and anger the nations to go up to Jerusalem.”

“This focus on Jerusalem is uncanny,” said Rabbi Winston. “The Arabs shouldn’t care about Jerusalem since they have Mecca. America’s policy is also strange. They could put the embassy in uncontested West Jerusalem, and that would please Israel without threatening the Palestinians.”

But one of the Palestinian preconditions to peace negotiations has always been the creation of a Palestinian state based on pre-Six Day War borders, which would include East Jerusalem, though Palestinians claim “every centimeter of Jerusalem” as a solely Arab and Muslim domain.

For Rabbi Winston, this bizarre activity surrounding Jerusalem reinforces his belief that this is a prelude to the Messiah.

“This is clearly Divine intervention,” the rabbi stated. “This is all for the believers. People are not acting logically. God is pushing things to make a person go to either the right or the left because the end is coming.”

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/79721/obamas-last-gasp-un-attack-israel-prophesied-ezekiel/

And...

Rabbi Winston spoke about how the Jewish mystical tradition divides time into three periods: Olam HaZeh (this world), the Messianic Era and Olam haBa (the world to come).

He explained that the transition between Olam haZeh and the Messianic Era is called Chevlei Moshiach (the birthpangs of the Messiah) and is characterized by chaos. We are currently in this transition period, which explains the apparent chaos in the world right now. Rabbi Winston mentioned the current US Presidential election as an example of the chaos that marks this transition.

Rabbi Winston taught that, according to the mystical understanding, the underlying purpose of the chaos is “to polarize the world, to force people to make a decision whether they are more spiritual or more physical. What’s their biggest priority?”

The cut-off point for choosing a spiritual existence over a primarily physical one is the war of Gog and Magog. “Who survives and who doesn’t survive, according to the Zohar (the foundational text of Jewish mysticism), will be based upon the choice the person made prior to the actual event itself,” he stated.

This choice is what Rabbi Winston calls “the final test of history”. He reminds us that whatever is coming, whether it’s Nibiru, nuclear war, Gog and Magog or another end times scenario, it will be “massive” and Divine protection will be required to survive it all. This idea of Divine protection connects Sukkot to the End of Days, the rabbi explained.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/77436/redemption-expert-sukkot-transition-period-messianic-era/

Cheers
171 posted on 01/08/2017 6:48:44 PM PST by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: Mr. M.J.B.

Theological differences a side
the Rabbi doesn’t know it but he believes almost the same
we do (BTW I didn’t read the article because Jesus isn’t coming to destroy , he is coming to save Israel from the nations that gather to destroy her and he will do it speaking what Moses predicted )

We are coming up on the time of Jacob’s trouble and the nations will be judged on how they treat Jacob’s children .


172 posted on 01/08/2017 7:48:56 PM PST by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: Lera

Pastor JD had an interesting segment on related items today - the abstained UN resolution, the ‘70 nations’ meeting Sunday, and the pending embassy move.

Taken together and with close timing (as well as additional threats of war/catastrophy) from jihad countries including ‘moderate’ Jordan (US spec ops directing ISIS in Syria have a base presence there), I believe this is part of a larger picture. This month - Tevet - is very significant and we’re seeing exactly what is associated with this month.

The jihad attack in Ft. Lauderdale and the Jerusalem attack in close succession add to an emerging picture of the next 7 days.


173 posted on 01/08/2017 8:57:18 PM PST by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: Mr. M.J.B.; Lera; amorphous; Jeremiah Jr
' ג'ורג' ויליאם ג'ורג

George William George

גוג

Gog, spelled out with the first initials

גוג ומגוג

Gog u'Magog, reading straight through the names. Sum of 70, as in 70 nations.

ליא (letters in the center of William) reverses to איל , "mogul" (lit. "ram")

Donald Trump's SS code name

In full, a mogul, tycoon, magnate, baron is called a ayil hahon, hahon (ההון) meaning of capital, wealth, fortune.

איל ההון

ben David ההון = 66 = בן דוד hahon

the letters within William, (יליא) = 51 = Edom (אדום)

Appears as though the battering ram trump for the peace process was already set in place (providing the cure before the disease) right in the midst of Gog/Gog uMagog, the peace process presidents. 41, 42, 43...

Gog, head president (נשיא ראש) of Meshech and Tubal, the "drawing out" and "you WILL be brought" [to the peace process negotiating table].

Here comes BO (בא) to attempt the final blow for the team. בא means "[he] came" or "[he] comes".

What's in a name?

174 posted on 01/08/2017 9:04:04 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: amorphous

I thought the world was supposed to end last September with the fourth Blood Moon of the year and the Shemitah and all these things.


175 posted on 01/08/2017 9:07:20 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standairds at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Mr. M.J.B.

Thank you
I was just about to sit down and listen to it and John Haller too and post .
Got home late , friend had a bit of medical problem but he is fine now , thank God.
I’ll post them now


176 posted on 01/08/2017 9:19:09 PM PST by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: Mr. M.J.B.

Interesting indeed, and I find myself mostly in agreement with both Rabbi’s interpretations.

Thanks for posting!


177 posted on 01/09/2017 5:43:51 PM PST by amorphous
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To: Ezekiel
What's in a name?

A lot actually. For instance the name "Soros" took some sort of evil genius to dream up, pronounced the same forwards or backwards, the name change hid this family's heritage, and allowed his progeny to survive, probably to go on and dream up the name "Barack Obama".

Truth is stranger than fiction...

178 posted on 01/09/2017 5:52:44 PM PST by amorphous
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To: Mr. M.J.B.; Ezekiel
Geulah b'Rachamim Music Video

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36, the number of candles we light during Chanukah

Up next!

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179 posted on 01/09/2017 8:02:06 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHI)
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180 posted on 01/16/2017 5:31:36 PM PST by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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