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Is Christmas still a religious holiday?
WRAL TV ^ | Dec 22, 2016 | Herb Scribner - Deseret News

Posted on 12/22/2016 5:32:03 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt

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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Relax guys - we are winning this one! If the modern celebration of Christmas was really watering down the Gospel message by a syncretistic merge with secular aspects, wouldn’t Satan be delighted? Wouldn’t he encourage it? But no, his sock puppets in the various atheist organizations are terrified! They don’t only want to stop sacred carols, but they want to ban even the most secular references. They would even ban a somewhat-risqué Thanksgiving song about a guy trying to get his girl alone in the woods, no doubt for nefarious purposes (i.e., Jingle Bells). Be of good cheer - even the most secular aspect, even Grandmother getting run over by the reindeer, reflects, albeit dimly, the Light of the Manger, the Light of this World.

And the darkness has never, nor will ever, master it!

As for Santa - remember the urban legend (perhaps fake but accurate) of his punching out Arius at the Council of Nicea.

Merry Christmas to all Freepers!!!!!!!!!!

(Now where did I leave that drink?)


21 posted on 12/22/2016 7:23:46 PM PST by PlateOfShrimp
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I cannot answer what is in someone else’s heart.


22 posted on 12/22/2016 7:26:34 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Brace. Brace. Brace. Heads down. Do not look up.)
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To: ConsCA

Merry Christmas to you and yours!!!


23 posted on 12/22/2016 7:26:40 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: PlateOfShrimp

And Merry Christmas back to you!


24 posted on 12/22/2016 7:28:21 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

In regards to the question in the headline; if I hear one more “Happy Holidays!” on tv I’m going to shoot it. If they can’t say Merry Christmas they shouldn’t participate.


25 posted on 12/22/2016 7:43:24 PM PST by suthener
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To: suthener

I agree - and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours!


26 posted on 12/22/2016 8:09:29 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

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Christmas is 100% an abomination to our Elohim.

The erroneous perceptions of men lead them to destruction (eternal).

What is written in the scriptures cannot be changed by men.


27 posted on 12/22/2016 8:24:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
IM not comfortable anymore saying "Merry Christmas" or even Happy Holidays..

I work in a hospital and sometimes work Christmas and there is nothing happy about very sick or dying people...

and "merry" and "happy" are just not descriptive of what's going in peoples' lives..

I prefer now to say have a peaceful Christmas, or even God bless us this Christmas or similar....

28 posted on 12/22/2016 8:30:41 PM PST by cherry
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To: Maudeen

“kids have a holiday”??....you mean the teachers have a holiday, again, following their 4 days at Thanksgiving and whatever else they can steal from the taxpayers...


29 posted on 12/22/2016 8:34:35 PM PST by cherry
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To: adaven
Christmas stopped being a religious holiday when it became an official Federal Holiday. Secular government and all. Totally diluted the religious meaning.

I don't agree. Religious holidays like Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter have Federal recognition mainly because America used to be a majority Christian nation and they honored those days as family time. I remember in public school having a whole week off for Thanksgiving and two weeks for Christmas. For Easter, we had a week as well. When I started working in a large company, it was normal to get Thanksgiving and the Friday after as paid holidays and both Christmas eve and Christmas day off as well as New Year's eve and January 1. We used to get Easter Good Friday as well.

Now, because of "political correctness" those paid holidays may be called something else but we still get them off - with the exception of Easter. Do people of other faiths or no faith observe or take off for those holidays? Many do, but it doesn't mean just because the government closes government offices and gives employees paid holidays that they have lost their "religious" context. Christmas will ALWAYS be a Christian holiday (holy day) just like Easter, no matter what others call them.

30 posted on 12/22/2016 11:01:30 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Christmas is 100% an abomination to our Elohim. The erroneous perceptions of men lead them to destruction (eternal). What is written in the scriptures cannot be changed by men.

Lighten up, Grinch! The religious observance of Christmas COMES FROM the Scriptures. When it is taken as a time to rejoice and praise God for His unspeakable gift of the Savior, how can it possibly be an "abomination" to Him? Wouldn't the Holy Spirit have just left out those parts about Christ's birth if He didn't want us to know and remember?

31 posted on 12/22/2016 11:12:09 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

It’s a religious observance and a Holy Day for Christians - holidays are excuses for not going to work.


32 posted on 12/23/2016 3:39:31 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: adaven

If Christmas is a religious holiday, why are so many churches closed on Christmas Day?


33 posted on 12/23/2016 5:29:08 AM PST by AceMineral (One day men will beg for chains.)
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To: adaven

What was/were we talking about anyway?


34 posted on 12/23/2016 6:31:24 AM PST by mythenjoseph (Separation of powers)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

“Merry Christmas, movie house!”


35 posted on 12/23/2016 6:55:05 AM PST by onedoug
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To: boatbums

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Yes Christmas comes from the scriptures in the things we are commanded not to do!

It is the ancient worship of Ashtoroth, the day the new born babies are cast into the glowing hot arms of the idol in the bonfire.

The only Biblical feast at that time is Hanukkah, the feast of the re dedication of the altar on Mt Moriah; the same one Yeshua and his disciples observed.
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36 posted on 12/23/2016 9:15:34 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Thank you very much, and Merry Christmas to you!


37 posted on 12/23/2016 10:59:02 AM PST by suthener
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To: editor-surveyor
The only Biblical feast at that time is Hanukkah, the feast of the re dedication of the altar on Mt Moriah; the same one Yeshua and his disciples observed.

Hanukkah is a "Biblical" feast, ES? The events this Jewish holiday celebrates are not found in any Biblical books as it happened long after the last book of the Old Testament was written. Only the first two books of Maccabees talk about it and these were NEVER considered part of the Jewish cannon of Divinely-inspired Scripture. Jesus may have observed it as He was Jewish, not because it was a mandated and obligatory feast day.

It is the ancient worship of Ashtoroth, the day the new born babies are cast into the glowing hot arms of the idol in the bonfire.

As for your accusations of celebrating the birth of our Savior and God's gift to the world of His only begotten Son as "the ancient worship of Ashtoroth{sic}", I can only offer my pity that you cannot understand it is something ALL Christ followers can celebrate and thank Almighty God for and Ashtoreth has NOTHING to do with it. You don't celebrate it? Fine, don't do it. Just get off your high horse calling everyone who does "idol worshipers"!

38 posted on 12/23/2016 7:00:55 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

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You are completely mistaken.

The roots of Hanukkah are completely described in 1 Maccabees. Yeshua’s observance of Hanukkah is described in the gospel of John.

It is one of the most important feasts, as it tells of the willingness of the believing Jews in Judea who were persecuted by Antiochus to die for the word of Yehova, and the ensuing battle that cast the Helenists out of the land.

The books of the Maccabees were a part of the KJV for over two centuries, and are most certainly inspired scripture, containing history without which Yeshua’s ministry cannot be understood.

Tabernacles is the feast of Yeshua’s birth, and the date of his birth.

Christmas is completely sinful, as it is totally pagan, and one of the days we are commanded to avoid.

It is an insult to the scriptures.


39 posted on 12/23/2016 7:36:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
You are wrong about the Maccabees books being "inspired" Scripture. They were NEVER accepted by the Jews unto whom were given the "oracles of God". I don't care if they were once included with the KJV because they were placed separately in a section of books that might be useful for edification but NOT for doctrine (Apocrypha or "hidden"). They, along with several other books were called Deuterocanonicals, or "second canon". They were NOT Divinely-inspired because the Holy Spirit didn't move the one(s) who wrote them. There were FOUR books of the Maccabees, not just the two, in fact, no one knows WHO wrote those books. In I Maccabees, the writer affirms that there were no prophets in the land then. Even the Catholic and Orthodox churches only accept the first two Maccabee books and they were placed between both the Old Testament and the New Testament along with five others.

There are numerous reasons why the Apocryphal books are not viewed as Divinely-inspired Scripture. You can read about them HERE.

I'm not going to argue with you about whether or not Gentile Christians MUST observe Jewish feast days and Sabbaths (I don't believe they must). What I will stand by is my assertion that observing the entrance of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the Savior of mankind, Almighty God incarnate, into this world is an honorable thing and is NOT sinful. How some people choose to celebrate Christmas with Santa Claus and rank commercialism is NOT any reason why those who DO celebrate Christ's birth should be grouped in with "pagans". Suit yourself. Do or don't do. Just leave your self-righteous judgmental attitude out of it - God never condemned it. Like I said, the Christmas "story" is included in Holy Scripture and is there for a reason. The angels and shepherds rejoiced at Jesus' birth as well as the Magi. I think we should too!

40 posted on 12/23/2016 8:18:11 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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