Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

PCUSA Tackling Low Bible Test Scores Among Seminary Students
Christian Post ^ | 3/1/2017 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 03/11/2017 4:35:27 PM PST by Gamecock

The Presbyterian Church (USA) is looking into ways to handle an apparent drop in satisfactory rates in Bible test scores among people preparing for ministry within the Mainline denomination.

Earlier this month, a task force created by the executive committee of the Committee on Theological Education released a statement on the Bible Content Examinations and a trend of lower than average evaluation rates that began in the summer.

The Presbyterian Church (USA) is looking into ways to handle an apparent drop in satisfactory rates in Bible test scores among people preparing for ministry within the Mainline denomination.

Earlier this month, a task force created by the executive committee of the Committee on Theological Education released a statement on the Bible Content Examinations and a trend of lower than average evaluation rates that began in the summer of 2015.

The task force recommended that candidates take the BCE after a they've had a full year of education in theology, that the COTE convene a group of scholars to create a study guide for the BCE and other resources for the BCE, and that the questions be released following their use in the exam.

The Rev. Timothy B. Cargal, assistant stated clerk for preparation for ministry in the PCUSA Office of the General Assembly, told The Christian Post that the issue was less about lower scores and more specifically about lower "satisfactory rates."

The Presbyterian Church (USA) is looking into ways to handle an apparent drop in satisfactory rates in Bible test scores among people preparing for ministry within the Mainline denomination.

Earlier this month, a task force created by the executive committee of the Committee on Theological Education released a statement on the Bible Content Examinations and a trend of lower than average evaluation rates that began in the summer of 2015.

The task force recommended that candidates take the BCE after a they've had a full year of education in theology, that the COTE convene a group of scholars to create a study guide for the BCE and other resources for the BCE, and that the questions be released following their use in the exam.

The Rev. Timothy B. Cargal, assistant stated clerk for preparation for ministry in the PCUSA Office of the General Assembly, told The Christian Post that the issue was less about lower scores and more specifically about lower "satisfactory results."

"Because a satisfactory evaluation requires a score of 70 percent or higher and the median scores fell below that level in summer 2015 and winter 2016, majorities of those who took the BCE during those administrations did not receive satisfactory evaluations," explained Cargal.

"For the summer 2016 and winter 2017 BCE administrations, the median scores were within satisfactory range, and so majorities of those taking those administrations did satisfy the requirement, though the majorities remained below levels typically seen in the recent past."

Cargal also told CP that he believed the "precipitating factor" for the lower satisfactory rates was the Presbyteries' Cooperative Committee on Examinations for Candidates' decision to quit using questions from past exams that were publicly released before 2009.

"The BCE has always and continues to use some questions from previous exams as a means for working toward a similar overall difficulty of the test from one administration to the next," continued Cargal.

"When publicly available questions were discontinued in summer 2015, the advantage of advance access to a portion of the questions on the test was removed."

Cargal added, "the task force concluded that in their view the overall mix of questions on the four most recent exams were more difficult than the overall mix of questions on a sample of previous BCEs from prior to the retirement of publicly available questions."

Bible Content Examinations are machine-scorable tests that people pursuing ministry with the PCUSA take in order to determine a person's overall knowledge of the Bible.

BCE's are used both to determine ministry candidates' biblical literacy and to assist seminary faculty in developing courses meant to help educate in any areas of scriptural weakness.

Questions come in the formats of multiple choice, matching, and ordering, with the items covering a broad selection of topics from the Bible.

Questions can include a short quoted passage from the Bible and then ask the test-taker to determine which book it came from, offering four options to choose from.

Other questions may ask context, providing the book and chapter for the passage, but then asking to what or who the quoted passage was referring to.

Carmen Fowler LaBerge, president of the Presbyterian Lay Committee, told CP that she took the BCE 25 years ago as a student at Princeton Theological Seminary.

"It was multiple choice and a high percentage of questions were drawn from prior years. We were coached to study those exams in preparation for the BCE. That made the exam easy to pass," said LaBerge.

LaBerge also told CP that she thought the reason for the decline in satisfactory rates was twofold: "the test has gotten harder and the candidates' knowledge of the content of the Bible has declined."

"The task force is trying to solve an internal examination problem when the deeper issue is those preparing to pastor PCUSA churches don't resonate with Psalm 119. They are not hungering, thirsting, aching nor yearning to know the Word of God nor to have their lives conformed to it," added LaBerge.

The task force's report on the BCE will next go before the PCC, which will formally receive and give feedback to the recommendations at its annual meeting, which begins in late March.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: highereducation; pcusa; religiousleft; seminary
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

1 posted on 03/11/2017 4:35:27 PM PST by Gamecock
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

Low Bible scores?

That explains a lot!


2 posted on 03/11/2017 4:36:04 PM PST by Gamecock (Twitter: What a real democracy looks like.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock
"It was multiple choice and a high percentage of questions were drawn from prior years. We were coached to study those exams in preparation for the BCE. That made the exam easy to pass," said LaBerge.

Captain Obvious was here ...

3 posted on 03/11/2017 4:41:17 PM PST by Tax-chick ("To be arguing constantly against bores is to become a bore oneself." ~Theodore Dalrymple)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

Attending a church where clergy got low Bible scores would be like sending your kids to a school where teachers were ranked in the bottom third of their college class...oh wait...there’s an emerging trend, stupidity mixed with seeking employment in fields immune from market competition...


4 posted on 03/11/2017 4:43:11 PM PST by ameribbean expat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

Looking at the questions, it seems that just reading The Bible would help A LOT.


5 posted on 03/11/2017 4:45:29 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

How do you know the test was Scriptural anyway?


6 posted on 03/11/2017 4:49:54 PM PST by Maudeen (No one on this earth is too far gone for Jesus.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

PCUSA is the liberal Presbyterian denomination, right? Pro same sex marriage, etc.


7 posted on 03/11/2017 4:51:17 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Scrambler Bob

Got a list of the questions?


8 posted on 03/11/2017 4:53:31 PM PST by BipolarBob (I just got done celebrating Black History Month. Obama and Kaepernick are both history. Hurray!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

Cargal also told CP that he believed the “precipitating factor” for the lower satisfactory rates was the Presbyteries’ Cooperative Committee on Examinations for Candidates’ decision to quit using questions from past exams that were publicly released before 2009.


nope, there’s the problem..............


9 posted on 03/11/2017 4:54:05 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: BipolarBob

Not the actual questions, but from the article:

“Questions come in the formats of multiple choice, matching, and ordering, with the items covering a broad selection of topics from the Bible.

“Questions can include a short quoted passage from the Bible and then ask the test-taker to determine which book it came from, offering four options to choose from.

“Other questions may ask context, providing the book and chapter for the passage, but then asking to what or who the quoted passage was referring to.”

Note a former student says that ... “ she took the BCE 25 years ago as a student at Princeton Theological Seminary.

“It was multiple choice and a high percentage of questions were drawn from prior years. We were coached to study those exams in preparation for the BCE. That made the exam easy to pass,”

So they relied on studying the questions and not The Source.

I would like to try some actual questions. I’ll bet you would, too. I suspect we would do well.


10 posted on 03/11/2017 5:06:05 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: BipolarBob

Here’s a link with previous tests.

http://www.whitneyhq.com/biblecontent/


11 posted on 03/11/2017 5:11:36 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SoFloFreeper

That’s the one!


12 posted on 03/11/2017 5:17:59 PM PST by Gamecock (Twitter: What a real democracy looks like.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

I’m not sure why that would be a problem in the PCUSA.


13 posted on 03/11/2017 5:18:03 PM PST by PAR35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GrootheWanderer

Thanks. I did pretty good on the ones I looked at the answers. I would definitely have to study to get an acceptable grade. Acceptable for me anyway.


14 posted on 03/11/2017 5:19:57 PM PST by BipolarBob (I just got done celebrating Black History Month. Obama and Kaepernick are both history. Hurray!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock
I would recommend either Masters Seminary or Bob Jones University but the delicate snowflakes the normal Presbyterian minister candidates would not survive the literal translation and in depth Greek lexicon work needed for expository teaching. Best just put them in the theater arts, send them printed non confrontational sermons they can work on for 4 or 5 days and then perform for the pew filled non believers. Mainline denominations that 100 or 200 years ago stood against the very gates of hell now are the ones holding those gates wide open for every Laodicean heresy you can name.
15 posted on 03/11/2017 5:27:12 PM PST by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

Decent, God loving, correct believing Christians need to vacate their churches in droves and start new churches.

I hope they believe in ET, practice God pleasing, unworldly inspired worship music, are grounded in correct doctrine and believe in the gifts of The Holy Spirit for today.

Satan get out of Christ’ Church in His Holy Name.


16 posted on 03/11/2017 5:36:56 PM PST by Bellflower (Dems = Mat 6:23 ....If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bellflower
Every Christian in every church from New Testament times to now (See the Books of First John and Jude) has had to make the decision whether or not their church is teaching correct Bible doctrine. The decision encompasses the question of whether to leave one's church or stay with it, dig in, and fight the good fight and help get the church back on a Biblical course.

Your call for doctrinally correct Christians to wholesale-ly abandon their churches smacks of a moderate form of divisiveness. Because some churches are wonderful places of teaching, fellowship, and growth. Your way means abandoning some of the great preaching teachers of the Word in this Century. That's certainly not a good thing.
17 posted on 03/11/2017 6:02:34 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Gamecock

It stands to reason that a church that only pretends to be christian would know nothing of the bible.


18 posted on 03/11/2017 6:07:53 PM PST by ckilmer (q e)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GrootheWanderer

Anyone know how to start a Tread where Freepers can post their scores, just to get an idea of how non-theologians do when taking the test “cold”?


19 posted on 03/11/2017 6:13:59 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: righttackle44

The PCUSA is apostate, you do know that?


20 posted on 03/11/2017 6:17:07 PM PST by Gamecock (Twitter: What a real democracy looks like.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson