You don't say....
Posted on 03/24/2017 3:51:17 AM PDT by NYer
(ROME) – Speaking at a March 16th conference in Limburg, Germany, the long-time Vatican correspondent Andreas Englisch has delivered an explosive allegation: In contradiction of public appearances, Pope Francis and Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI “are in complete disagreement” and “never speak to one another.” The Pope Emeritus has apparently stated that he only appears in public “at the explicit request of Pope Francis.” What is shown on these occasions, Englisch continues, is “only the pretense of friendship.”
No official transcript of the press conference is yet available, but Giuseppe Nardi, another well-known Vaticanist who was in attendance, says that Englisch continued his statements by describing Pope Francis as a “strong personality” who “gets what he wants,” and that he has little in common with Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI but “uses him when necessary for the optics.” Englisch concluded his dramatic remarks with a remarkable statement: that, in addition to the pressure put upon the Pope Emeritus to resign, “different ecclesiastical forces” are putting pressure on Ratzinger in a different direction: “to return.”
Translated from the German with the aid of Google Translate.
For the full text of Nardi's report, reprinted from katholisches.info, click here.
Ping!
That ain’t a surprise
This non-Roman Catholic says “Bring back Benedict.”
they’re polar opposites
Francis sounds like another obama
So why did Benedict resign? What dark forces were at work?
I wouldn't be surprised if an Italian newspaper ran photos a famous paparazzi got of Francis being kept duct taped to an uncomfortable wooden chair under the watchful eyes of queer Jesuits wearing nothing but spiked leather speedos and clown makeup.
I'm no theologian, but I've read Benedict's books, some several times, and there's no way he agrees with the trash that comes out of schizophrenic Bergie.
Specifically, we have reason to believe that a Vatican ‘regime change’ was engineered by the Obama administration.We were alarmed to discover that, during the third year of the first term of the Obama administration your previous opponent, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and other government officials with whom she associated, proposed a Catholic ‘revolution’ in which the final demise of what was left of the Catholic Church in America would be realized.
Approximately a year after this email discussion, which was never intended to be made public, we find that Pope Benedict XVI abdicated under highly unusual circumstances and was replaced by a pope whose apparent mission is to provide a spiritual component to the radical ideological agenda of the international left….
READ MORE: The pope, the president, and the international left
See my post #9.
Our Lady to Sr. Lucia, June 13, 1929
Supposedly he was threatened.
Probably obama surveillance and blackmail.
You don't say....
It is rumored that Obama forced Benedict to step down so that a commie pope could be put into the Vatican.
Now that Obama is gone, Benedict needs to come forward, give Francis the boot and assume the Papacy he was elected to.
No surprise.
Pope Benedict has retained the title of Pope, and has retained his papal name. He is still the one and only Pope.
This is why Bergoglio has none of the protections of the Holy Spirit, and is why Bergoglio veers from one horrific error to another.
It's because Bergoglio is not the Pope.
Canon 188 states:
A (Papal) resignation made out of grave fear that is inflicted unjustly or out of malice, substantial error, or simony is invalid by the law itself.
The criterion of Canon 188 that most clearly invalidates Ratzinger’s attempted resignation is the criterion of 'substantial error'.
The substantial error consists in the concept of an Emeritus or 'Shadow Pope' - one who shares in the title of Pope. The title 'Pope Emeritus' or 'Pontiff Emeritus' is a wholly novel title - it has not been used by or for any other abdicator.
But the Papacy was instituted by Christ. It is one and indivisible, and no mortal man has power to amend it; nor to smudge or elide it with taxonomy.
The office of Pope is not only one and indivisable, but has a divine character hedged about with the magisterium of the Body of Christ, and is not under the entire control of its current holder.
For instance - the very fact that Canon 188 exists indicates that a Pope may still be Pope even if he publically declares otherwise.
When he abdicated, Benedict declared the seat vacant. However: he has retained the title of Pope. That is the modern usage of Emeritus - 'one who retains the title'.
If Benedict believes himself to - in any sense - be Pope then he is still Pope. Because if he believes that he can retain any part of the Papacy - such as the title - then he is in substantial error about the nature of the Papacy, and his abdication would be illegitimate.
There are other signs - apart from being called 'Pope Emeritus' - that Benedict is in substantial error about the nature of the papacy:
* He is still called Benedict.
* He is still called "Your Holiness"
* He still lives in the Vatican.
* He still wears a white cassock.
If the Papacy was some mundane position like professor or judge, then these would be laughable superficialities.
But because these facts indicate that Benedict believes himself to share the Papal ministry in some way, they indicate substantial error. And therefore that his abdication is void, and that he is still Pope.
Here's a quote from Pope Benedict’s personal secretary, Archbishop Georg Ganswein. I include it because the Archbishop is well placed to know the mind of Pope Benedict.
From the election of his successor, Pope Francis—on 13 March 2013—there are not then two Popes, but de facto an enlarged ministry with an active and a contemplative member. For this reason, Benedict has not renounced either his name or his white cassock. For this reason, the correct title with which we must refer to him is still “Holiness.” Furthermore, he has not retired to an isolated monastery, but [has retired] within the Vatican, as if he had simply stepped aside to make space for his Successor, and for a new stage in the history of the Papacy, which he, with that step, has enriched with the centrality of [prayer] and of compassion placed in the Vatican Gardens.
The Archbishop has done us all a great favor in documenting this confusion.
If more clarity were needed, here is a forthright quote from Pope John Paul II.
"A Pope Emeritus is impossible"
I hope that this proves helpful. To non-catholics these arguments might seem legalistic and pointless. But Christ's Church discerns marriages as existing or not existing; or the presence/non-presence of the Blessed Sacrament by similar determinations.
Please of your charity pray for Pope Benedict XVI: that he might realise his error and rectify the situation in whatever way seems good to God.
Hat tip to Anne Barnhardt, who saw this so much earlier than anyone else.
http://www.barnhardt.biz/2017/01/16/cutting-the-crap-31-questions-and-blunt-answers-about-the-catholic-church-and-antipope-bergoglio/
Interesting. If Benedict really had been threatened into abdicating, then his abdication would - once again - be invalid.
A Papal abdication made due to grave fear would be void, just the same as one due to substantial error.
Could we be seeing a resurge of the Church in the USA because of the election of Donald T. Trump as President and the 4 cardinals who presented that question to Pope Francis?
Thank-you for your response and God Bless.
I don’t have any special knowledge of what caused Ratzinger to resign as pope but I suspect that if the truth were to get out you would have a chissum with in the church bigger then when Martin Luther voiced his opposition to papal writts
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