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1 posted on 04/21/2017 7:48:58 AM PDT by Salvation
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2 posted on 04/21/2017 7:51:26 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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But why did the Lord’s soul not shine through perfectly before the resurrection? Why did He suffer fatigue? Why could He not appear and disappear at will?

I think He could. There's at least one passage that mentions that Jesus was out in the middle of a sea and then, instantly, he was on the other shore.

I'm not sure where it is, but it's in there somewhere.

3 posted on 04/21/2017 7:52:25 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Another video you might like. The Greenes.
4 posted on 04/21/2017 7:58:32 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is history)
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I have thought about this myself. When we meet Helen Keller in heaven, will she be blind? Will those who have, for the glory of God, lived through pain and suffering, bear some mark of their affliction? Here’s what I think. We will, each of us, have our own distinctive crown of glory, and we will place them all at the feet of Jesus. As God is, himself, three distinct persons in one, we will join in the communion of saints each of us retaining our distinct personhood.


5 posted on 04/21/2017 8:02:32 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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The whole thing is well said. This particularly resonates:

He kept His scars not from inability to heal them, “but to wear them as an everlasting trophy of His victory.”

Like many other people, I bear scars on my body. I would miss them if they were to disappear. The events which caused them are part of who I am; they themselves are reminders of where I've been, what I've done, and what it cost to do it. If my scars have limited value (and they do, to me at least) then surely Christ's scars have infinite value. To erase them would be wrong, and God by definition can do no wrong.

6 posted on 04/21/2017 8:02:58 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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Thanks for posting.


10 posted on 04/21/2017 8:10:44 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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He kept the marks of His glory. If you notice, none could recognize Him until He spoke or showed the marks. Our flesh body cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The Son of man died on the cross. His body of flesh needed to be replaced. We need a new body to contain our soul and spirit to live in Heaven. Flesh cannot look upon God and live. When Mary saw Him at the tomb, she thought He was the gardener until He spoke. On the road to Emmaus, His own disciples didn't recognize Him for 7 miles, probably over 1 hour. Then He broke the bread and they could see His marks. In the upper Room, He had to say "It is I". And of course, by the sea of Galilee, Peter didn't recognize Him until He repeated a sentence he said the first time they met and he jumped out of the boat to swim to Him.

Resurrection means more than just making alive. Lazarus was made alive from the dead, but he had to die again to be resurrected into a glorified body for Heaven. This new body will be able to walk through walls, travel in space and time, along with never get old and die ever again. 1 Cor 15 speaks of what must happen at Resurrection to enter heaven. Zech 12:10 speaks of the Jews seeing the marks and repenting. Obviously Jesus could have made Himself a body of any sort he wanted, but the death, burial, and resurrection of The Begotten Son of God was a big deal and it should be commemorated. Everyone will know Jesus when they see Him and be reminded of just what He did for our sakes.

We, OTOH, can look like anyone. We will be known by our spirit. Someone eaten by a shark can appear as they did at any point in their life. The actual appearance of a resurrected body is less important than what it can do.

Peter described our flesh body as a "tent". It has been described other places as a Tabernacle, Temple, house, and even a clay pot. But when Jesus said, "In my Father's House there are many mansions, He wasn't speaking of large brick homes. We won't need a building with bricks and mortar because we will not sleep or need a place to rest. Jesus will shine like the Sun forever and no darkness will ever be in Heaven. The mansion reference points to what these new bodies can do compared to what we can do in the tent we have now.

One of the better verses speaking to what happens is Luke 20:36--nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. Being "equal to angels" denotes many changes we have to look forward to in the resurrection. Forget the arguments on being fat, skinny, old or young, but look forward to a supernatural container to hold the spirit man you really are. It all goes back to Genesis and Adam being created in the image of God. God is One God in 3 parts. The Father was seen as a fire and pillar of smoke because we could not look upon His glory. Jesus was the flesh container of God while He dwelt among His people. He then sent His Spirit to live in our hearts as a down payment for our inheritance. It's all One God, but in 3 parts. We lost the Spirit in the Garden of Eden and could only reproduce flesh containers with a fallen soul and dead spirit. Jesus fixed all that and we will someday be able to walk and talk with God in the cool of the evening without death. That was God's aim from the beginning. We will be His people and He will be our God, finally!

12 posted on 04/21/2017 10:27:35 AM PDT by chuckles
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bump


15 posted on 04/21/2017 11:59:04 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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As a point of fact, Orthodox icons do not show the Holy Wounds. Western art often does.

I have not seen any profound reasoning for the iconographic rule, beyond His body being glorified.


24 posted on 04/22/2017 7:47:11 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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