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How to teach your children to read and understand the King James Version of the Bible
Fr. John Whiteford's News, Comments, & Reflections ^ | 06-09-2017 | Fr. John Whiteford

Posted on 06/25/2017 7:13:19 PM PDT by NRx

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To: AppyPappy

But all translations are just an opinion of what the Greek and Hebrew say so it is rather meaningless.


I think i know what you mean, i have a problem trusting some of them, for instance the living Bible is not a translation but only paraphrased version of the KJV, yet many of the so called versions put out by religious institutes are much like the living bible.

They call them translations but are they? or are they just to reinforce their preexisting views?


81 posted on 06/27/2017 9:18:43 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I did not. I do not know the history of every protestant denomination. I had heard of Methodists and Episcopalian, but not the two as one.


82 posted on 06/27/2017 10:28:24 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: piusv
I do not know the history of every protestant denomination.

Sorry -- I should have deduced from your screenname.

83 posted on 06/27/2017 12:20:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

No big deal and no apologies necessary.


84 posted on 06/27/2017 1:53:24 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: Bodleian_Girl

Check the margins.


85 posted on 06/27/2017 2:21:51 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: Bodleian_Girl
Same ...

the readings from newer MSS (i.e. KJV texts) are in the margins ...

86 posted on 06/27/2017 2:24:35 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: Bodleian_Girl
they denigrate the position and God-head of Christ.

Col 2:9 in the NASB ...

For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form

Clearest affirmation of the deity of Christ in ANY translation ...

Let's stop the nonsense of a systematic attack on the deity of Christ with the modern translations.

KJV is an excellent translation because it is a LITERAL translation ...

If you want the best possible ... translate it yourself from the Greek.

87 posted on 06/27/2017 2:33:02 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: dartuser; pilgrim

What does Luke 4:4 say in the NASB?


88 posted on 06/27/2017 4:34:14 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: Salvation
With Douay-Rheims?

I've compared the King James Bible with the Challoner Douay-Rheims and I just don't know what you guys are on about, the Challoner Douay-Rheims reads practically word for word with the KJV that largely inspired it, since the previous Douay-Rheims was a total dud and practically unreadable. Bishop Challoner admitted as much.

89 posted on 06/27/2017 4:39:50 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

My son loves the Douay Rheims. Just remember that it has more books than the KJV.

It is complete.


90 posted on 06/27/2017 4:42:01 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

There you go again. It does not have more books than the KJV. The uninspired Apocrypha were isolated from the Inspired Word of God but deemed good for edification, however they most certainly were included.

Then again, I’ve seen you post numerous times an apparent belief that Martin Luther somehow had a hand in the King James Bible, so it appears that there’s a certain amount of disinterest in furthering the truth of the matter, here.


91 posted on 06/27/2017 4:47:03 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Some KJV may have the Apocrypha printed in the back.

However, please check out this link for the truth:

The Bible - 73 or 66 Books? (Ecumenical Thread)

92 posted on 06/27/2017 5:40:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

You specifically stated that the KJV did not have all the books, when in fact the Challoner Douay-Rheims that you hold in such high regard used it for the vast majority of it’s translation including Apocrypha.

Now, what was it you were saying again?


93 posted on 06/27/2017 5:45:12 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Did you read the link I posted above?

I’m not going to argue anymore about this. Bye.


94 posted on 06/27/2017 5:52:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Thank you.


95 posted on 06/27/2017 6:04:25 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Bodleian_Girl
What does Luke 4:4 say in the NASB?

Don't have my NASB in front of me ... but my Holman (which is very close to NASB) says:

But Jesus answered him, 'It is written: Man must not live on bread alone.'

And in the margin the following note:

Other mss add but on every word of God.

The other mss (manuscripts) the translator is talking about would refer to the Greek mss that underlie the KJV.

That has been my point all along. Modern translations relegate variant readings to the margin. And if you would read the preface to the original 1611 version you would see the translators recommend multiple translations when studying the scriptures ... because when you lock yourself into one version (for study) you can possibly arrive at the wrong sense of a particular passage.

The best possible scenario is to take the time to learn the NT Greek language ... then you can translate it yourself and interact with all the versions in print.

96 posted on 06/28/2017 6:33:49 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: stylecouncilor

...ping.....


97 posted on 06/28/2017 8:58:51 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: dartuser

Why would Jesus say “Man must not live on bread alone,” and just leave that hanging out there?


98 posted on 06/28/2017 11:14:50 AM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Don't check the news, check Cernovich on Twitter)
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To: Bodleian_Girl
Why would the NASB say in Col. 2:9 "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form" if they were systematically trying to remove the deity of Christ?
99 posted on 06/28/2017 1:37:35 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: ravenwolf

ESV and NASV are two such versions.


100 posted on 06/28/2017 10:55:57 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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