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Vatican adviser scraps Catholic teaching, says God made gays ‘who they are’
LifeSite News | August 22, 2017 | Pete Baklinski

Posted on 08/22/2017 5:27:13 PM PDT by ebb tide

A high profile Vatican consultant has publicly departed from Catholic teaching on homosexuality, saying God made “LGBTQ people … who they are.”

Father James Martin, a Jesuit priest who is the editor at large of America Magazine as well as an adviser to the Vatican's Secretariat for Communications, made the comment to the pro-homosexual organization PFLAG (Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) on August 18. 

Martin spoke on the occasion of PFLAG honoring him with its 2017 Flag Bearer Award for making what it called “lasting contributions to the safety and/or equality of people who are LGBTQ, their families, and allies.” The award will be given at PFLAG’s National Convention in Portland, Oregon, two months from now. 

“I'm grateful to PFLAG for this recognition, and I hope that the award serves as another reminder that all LGBTQ people are beloved children of God, that God made them who they are, and that they have as much place in our churches as anyone else,” said Martin. 

The Catholic Church teaches, however, that sexual attraction to someone of the same sex is “objectively disordered” since God created sexual attraction to be between a male and female for the sake of procreation.  

Because of this, the Church holds that there is no such reality as a “homosexual person,” but only a person who struggles with what the Church calls the “disorder” of being attracted to someone of the same sex. 

“Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder, states a 1986 letter on the topic of homosexuality from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to the worlds’ bishops.

“[S]pecial concern and pastoral attention should be directed toward those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not,” the letter adds. 

The Church teaches that everybody, including those with a disordered sexuality — often expressing itself in lust, masturbation, fornication, pornography, homosexuality — are called to chastity, that is to the moral virtue of a rightly ordered sexuality integrated within the person. 

The Church furthermore teaches that persons who struggle with same-sex attraction must be “accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity.”

While Fr. Martin has accepted various awards from pro-homosexual organizations that sell themselves as “Christian,” this may be the first time he has accepted an award from a secular pro-homosexual organization that is bluntly at odds with Catholic sexual teaching. 

PFLAG exists to advance what it calls “equality and full societal affirmation of LGBT people through its threefold mission of support, education, and advocacy.” It has been a leading proponent of same-sex “marriage” and homosexual adoption in its four-decade existence. 

Martin said on Twitter:

Since being named a Vatican adviser in April, Martin has used his prominence to advance the normalization of homosexuality within the Catholic Church. 

Martin recently published a book titled Building a Bridge in which he outlines ways he thinks the Catholic Church should be building bridges of acceptance toward practicing homosexuals. 

He has been publicly criticized by Illinois Bishop Thomas Paprocki and Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput for getting the Church’s teaching on homosexuality entirely wrong.

Last year, Martin accepted an award from the pro-homosexual New Ways Ministry. During his acceptance speech, he said that the Church should embrace homosexuality’s "special gifts" and "lay to rest" language about the “objectively disordered” nature of homosexual inclinations and acts.

Martin has been quick to denounce White Supremacists for the violence that took place last week in Charlottesville, Virginia, rightly calling racism “wrong,” “the precise opposite of Jesus' message,” and “absurd to Jesus.”

But one Catholic commentator noted the irony of Martin defending Catholic teaching on equality between races while rejecting Catholic teaching on sexuality. 


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholics; francischurch; homos; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; vatican
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1 posted on 08/22/2017 5:27:13 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 08/22/2017 5:28:49 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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Are we entirely sure that the Vatican isnt just an Italian gay bath house with designer robes?


3 posted on 08/22/2017 5:29:46 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: All

No, That wasn’t God.


4 posted on 08/22/2017 5:29:55 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: ebb tide

Did G-d make those who use too many fossil fuels and greedy people who they are?


5 posted on 08/22/2017 5:32:20 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ebb tide

The Episcopal Church in America has completely embraced PFLAG. Does that make me an honorary Catholic?


6 posted on 08/22/2017 5:32:25 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: ebb tide
"Martin has been quick to denounce White Supremacists for the violence that took place last week in Charlottesville, Virginia"

Is that the new litmus test for being right? So basically, this guy is misguided on everything he believes, yet the church leaves him in a leadership position.

7 posted on 08/22/2017 5:34:44 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: ebb tide

I didn’t leave the Catholic Church; the Catholic Church left me.

Anybody else looking at SSPX?


8 posted on 08/22/2017 5:35:57 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime "humanity.)
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To: ebb tide
That's really sick.

From inside the church, no less...

9 posted on 08/22/2017 5:36:26 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: ebb tide

Wtf is it with Jesuits?


10 posted on 08/22/2017 5:36:39 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; Lera; 444Flyer; metmom; SVTCobra03; Texas Fossil; mitch5501

Planet Earth is running out of time before the Tribulation and the Great Tribulation.


11 posted on 08/22/2017 5:38:16 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: ebb tide

He also made pedophiles and murderers too...


12 posted on 08/22/2017 5:40:24 PM PDT by TheDon (MAGA!)
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To: ebb tide

EVEN IF (for the sake of discussion) we accept that “G-d made homosexuals the way they are,” that does nothing to change the fact that G-d wants them to “grow up,”that is: take responsibility for living moral lives as set forth in the Bible very clearly, several times over.
We are all “made” with certain abilities and certain weaknesses....and He expects us to employ our strengths for good ends...and He expects us to resist, overcome our weaknesses as best possible, too.
The whole argument that “homos are born that way” is a diversion. The point is that He wants ALL of us, EACH of us, to read and follow His teachings for our lives here on this earth. For some of us, we have to overcome urges to be violent. For some of us, we have to overcome urges to steal. For some of us, we have to overcome urges to perform homosexual acts. For some of us, we have to overcome urges to lie. For some of us, we have to overcome physical disabilities or poor health. All difficult. All things we have to work on. All things we can make progress with....if we “grow up” and work on what we need to do.


13 posted on 08/22/2017 5:41:06 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: ebb tide

Soon, very soon in my lifetime the Catholic Church will come out of the closet and support homosexual marrage, pedophilia and communism.


14 posted on 08/22/2017 5:42:07 PM PDT by stockpirate (SETH RICH gave the emails to wikikileaks via murdered ex-UK Amb, murdered he was, cover up it is)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

They become governor of California.


15 posted on 08/22/2017 5:42:41 PM PDT by SkyDancer (There Are Three Great Ways To Perfect Landings - Unfortunately We Pilots Don't Know Them.)
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To: ebb tide

If we go down the road of ‘God made them that way’, then we open up the idea that God does make some vessels for destruction.


16 posted on 08/22/2017 5:43:00 PM PDT by xzins ( Support the Freepathon! Every donation is important.)
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To: ebb tide

I’m not Catholic but I’ll chime in on this. The Lord Himself told us this sort of thing was coming. All we can do is hang tough and behave as He would want us to.
Over & Out !

Snoot


17 posted on 08/22/2017 5:43:03 PM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: ebb tide

God made everyone. He made gays. He made straights. He made adulterers. He made rapists. He made porn addicts. He made pedophiles.

He also told us which sexual sins to resist.

But God does not “make you” want to commit sexual sin. That is Natural Man.

One would think that someone in the Vatican would own a bible.

“For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.”


18 posted on 08/22/2017 5:45:10 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: ebb tide

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19 posted on 08/22/2017 5:46:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ebb tide

Great. Murderers can also claim that they couldn’t help themselves, because God made them that way.

This whole argument is beyod preposterous.


20 posted on 08/22/2017 5:46:42 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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