BREAKING: Pope Francis gives local bishops more responsibility for Mass translations

Revelation 17
7 The angel said to me, “Why are you amazed? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, the beast with the seven heads and the ten horns.
http://www.usccb.org/bible/revelation/17

Hold Fast! Twelve days to go!

Adding more confusion to the faithful is not a good thing. There are some areas where the local bishops should take the lead and input from the Vatican should be minimal. Mass translations is not one of them. The Church has always allowed for local cultural input to the liturgy. Which is all well and good but too many bishops will now see this as a green light for “Rainbow” Mass and giant puppet liturgy.

IMO, sounds like he might be paving the way for the legit church to accept communist-concocted "Liberation Theology", something previous popes over the years had harshly condemned.

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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate

Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama's pastor in a heated interview about his Church's teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090321190904/http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]

By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090321190909/http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

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Re: James Cone, founder of "Black Liberation Theology":

SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a - reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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The Black church and Marxism: what do they have to say to each other
by Cone, James H. 1938- . Harrington, Michael 1928-1989

https://archive.org/details/TheBlackChurchAndMarxismWhatDoTheyHaveToSayToEachOther

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Liberation Theology and the KGB

Jay Richards | February 2, 2010

The presence of Marxism in liberation theology is well-known, at least to seminarians who are critical readers. Practically every seminarian reads Gustavo Gutierrez's Theology of Liberation at some point, but most laypeople find it hard to believe that there could have been (and continues to be) a widespread attempt to hybridize Christian theology and Marxism.

Marxist regimes obviously benefited from the spread of liberation theology in the churches. Still, I was not aware of any connections between liberation theology and communist clandestine organizations until now.

A new article by Robert D. Chapman in the International Journal of Intelligence and Counterintelligence begins to connect some dots. In "The Church in Revolution," Chapman, "a retired operations officer in the Clandestine Services Division of the Central Intelligence Agency," argues that the KGB infiltrated the Russian Orthodox Church through Metropolitan Nikodim, the Russian Orthodoxy's second-ranking prelate. Nikodim was a proponent of liberation theology. Nikodim was active in the otherwise-Protestant World Council of Churches. And the WCC, of course, became an actively left-wing organization during the last half of the 20th century.

Chapman also details the growth of liberation theology in Latin America-and the Vatican's struggles with it-and the growth of black liberation theology in the United States. Prominent proponents of the latter include James Cone and Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

The arguments of liberation theologians should be challenged on their merits. The source of an argument, after all, doesn't establish its truth or falsity. Still, it's interesting to learn that liberation theology may have been, at least in part, a project of the KGB.

Unfortunately, this isn't just history. Chapman concludes ominously:

"the Theology of Liberation doctrine is one of the most enduring and powerful to emerge from the KGB's headquarters. The doctrine asks the poor and downtrodden to revolt and form a Communist government, not in the name of Marx or Lenin, but in continuing the work of Jesus Christ, a revolutionary who opposed economic and social discrimination.

A friend of mine, a head of Catholic social services in my area and formerly a priest, is a liberation theologian. He has made a number of humanitarian trips to Central America and told me, "liberation theology is alive and well." The same can be said of its sibling in the United States [ie, Black Liberation Theology]."

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2010/02/liberation-theology-and-the-kgb/

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More on Liberation Theology and the Soviets

Catholic News Agency ^ | 5/15/2015 | Alejandro Bermudez

If the Soviet bloc wasn't the mother of liberation theology, it was certainly a sinister stepmother, enlisting Catholics in a geopolitical cause and inviting them to sell their souls for funding and support.

Only the naive can disregard the mountain of evidence connecting liberation theology with Soviet action in the region.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicnewsagency.com ...

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From the Russian Orthodox Church's website...

Feb 2016...

WCC welcomes meeting of Pope Francis and Patriarch Kirill for unity and peace

12 February 2016

Rev. Dr Olav Fykse Tveit, general secretary of the World Council of Churches (WCC), has issued a statement on behalf of the Council hailing the historic meeting of Pope Francis, pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church, and Patriarch Kirill, primate of the Russian Orthodox Church.

The two leaders met on 12 February in Havana, Cuba.

The Russian Orthodox Church is the largest member church in the WCC..."

https://www.oikoumene.org/en/press-centre/news/wcc-welcomes-meeting-of-pope-francis-and-patriarch-kirill

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Got that? The Russian Orthodox Church is a member of the (far left) World Council of Churches.

That is all you need to know in order to understand that it is a sham operation. Reverend Wright’s fake church United Church of Christ (UCC) is also a member. In fact, his (communist) “Liberation Theology” was concocted by the KGB.

The Russians are masters at the art of deception. They play chess, thinking many moves ahead of their opponents, while most of us, unfortunately, suck at simple checkers. They must laugh their butts off at how easily westerners can be tricked and deceived.

The Russian Orthodox Church is a member of the (communist ) World Council of Churches:
https://www.oikoumene.org/en/member-churches/russian-orthodox-church
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: WORLD COUNCIL OF CHURCHES (WCC)

Long-time proponent of Liberation Theology
Infiltrated by the KGB during the Cold War
Funded Marxist insurgent groups throughout the world
Calls for capitalism’s “reform” according to socialist principles

[lots more at link...]
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7514
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“The Church has always allowed for local cultural input to the liturgy.”

Nah. History shows Rome’s insistence on domination and control.

Ireland a case in point. They grew using the Celtic way of evangelism under the leadership of Patrick until Rome insisted on clothing, haircuts, organization, denied their use of their own music, etc. they went into decline.

Later, it was Celtic Christians who had to reevangelize Europe after the fall of Rome. Then Rome turned around and committed the same errors again.

Ireland a case in point. They grew using the Celtic way of evangelism under the leadership of Patrick until Rome insisted on clothing, haircuts, organization, denied their use of their own music, etc. they went into decline.

Christians in Russia Refuse to Stop Sharing the Gospel Despite Putin’s Ban on Evangelism

By Stoyan Zaimov , Christian Post Reporter
Aug 3, 2016 | 1:32 PM

Christians in Russia have said they are determined to preach the Gospel and fulfill the Great Commission despite tough new laws signed by President Vladimir Putin that ban evangelism outside of churches. ...”

http://www.christianpost.com/news/christians-russia-refuse-stop-sharing-the-gospel-despite-putins-ban-evangelism-167442/
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July 2016...

FAITH UNDER FIRE

Russia puts lid on Christians sharing faith

‘Will require any sharing … even a casual conversation, to have prior authorization from state’

http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/russia-puts-lid-on-christians-sharing-faith/#34c1Fo2QT9xudcrR.99

Mathew 24:36.

This is not a pope but Satan incarnate.

The church stands for the objective truth of God.

Letting every precinct decide how they want to practice mass invites more subjective interpretation and schism and only furthers to fracture the church.

As we approach the time of the end, this is looking as if it is one of those Mysteries that was hidden in plain site, to be revealed at the time of the end.

Mark 13:32 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. [1]

Note that Jesus told His diciples this before the Crucifixion. Fast forward to 70-90 AD, and we have the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to show his servants what must happen soon. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,

The Greek word translated as “God” is the Trinitarian form, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. So this says that the Father told the Son what must happen soon, and the Son told an angel who told John what was going to happen soon, and John wrote it down for us. We know know that the Revelation 12:1-2 Great Sign in the Heavens is a real star/planet/sun/moon pattern, and that tells us what “soon” means.

The time in the Church Age when the doctrine of “immanence”, and “no one knows the day or the hour” served well during the past 1985 years, but it is no longer useful because soon is really, really close.

On another level of analysis, instead of telling us that we could not know when He was coming back, Jesus was telling us WHERE TO LOOK FOR THE ANSWER! (Sorry for shouting, but this is just too good!)

In the Book of Creation, the Jewish mystics recorded: “And He created His universe with three books (Sepharim), with text (Sepher) with number (Sephar) and with communication (Sippur).” [2}

“With three books Sefer Yetzirah now begins to define the word Sefirah, the Hebrew designation for the divine emanations that form the basis of creation. The Hebrew word for book, Sepher (), has the same root as the word Sephirah (), except that the former is masculine and the latter is feminine. These three books are said to be “text, number, and communication.” The Hebrew word for “text” here is Sepher (), which literally means “book.” “Number” is Sephar (), from which the English word “cipher” is derived. “Communication” is Sippur (), which more literally is “telling.” These three divisions respectively represent quality, quantity, and communication. These are the letters, numbers, and the manner in which they are used. 49 These three books correspond to the three divisions of creation defined by Sefer Yetzirah, namely, “Universe, Year, and Soul.” In more modern terms, these would be called space, time and spirit. “Universe” refers to the dimensions of space, “year” to time, and “soul” to the spiritual dimension.” [3]

Jesus is the Word (text), the Holy Spirit is obviously “communication”, so that leads to the Father being associated with Number!

When I told this to my wife, She said: “No one comes to the Father but through me!” BINGO! One can’t get to the numbers except by reading and believing the text!

1. Nelson, Thomas. Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 987). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.
2. Kaplan, Aryeh. Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation in Theory and Practice (Kindle Locations 445-449). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.
3. Kaplan, Aryeh. Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation in Theory and Practice (Kindle Locations 719-721). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.

“This is not a pope but Satan incarnate.”

Nah. But a proxy? A minion? A tool? Hell yes. Quite literally, hell yes.

I like what Benedict XVI did. Hopefully no changes for us.

I am sticking to Mathew 24:36-44, which still rings TRUE TODAY just as it was 2,000 years ago.

I go with the NRSVCE Bible.

As long as you pray the Lord’s Prayer daily, you will be OK, because it is the “daily” that is taken away 1290 days before the Abomination that causes Desolation.

There was an article posted on FR warning against reading or hearing the words “God Told Me” in the Religion Forum.

Yes I do pray the Lord’s Prayer often and daily.

Great! So when the USCCB gives up the game like what the Bishops of England did with King Henry the VIII, well then they have the authority to change the mass also!

You may find this of interest.

http://catholicism.org/the-celtic-church-myth-and-reality-ii.html

Thanks FRiend. It is interesting, but is poorly written.

I’ve looked at historical documentation of the way of Celtic evangelization and consequently, what Rome did to destroy what was accomplished.

Frankly, as paganism crept into Rome, it became a worldly religion, where it remains today. I don’t know if God will grant yet another reprieve in the form of the Gospel coming to Rome. Time will tell.

Religion and its rituals kill.

Ironically, non-Roman churches have well learned the lessons of Celtic evangelism and are growing like crazy.

You are welcome. Hello Irma! I am a bit preoccupied right now so I did a quick scan and did not read it in depth. Thanks for your input.