Posted on 09/21/2017 11:56:21 AM PDT by ebb tide
Ironically, these groups, like the website Church Militant, which tout their desire for “traditional” Catholic practices consistently set themselves against bishops and religious superiors. Thus, groups that have zero legitimacy in the Church (and which have often been criticized by Church leadership) are setting themselves up against legitimate authorities. Pope Francis himself, for example, is a frequent target. In this way, such supposedly “traditional” Catholic websites are subverting tradition. As a result of their hateful content, they cause confusion, frustration and contempt. Such campaigns can never lead to the kind of results that St. Ignatius calls indicative of the “Good Spirit”: consolation, calm and peace. You can judge these unofficial inquisitions by their fruits.
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“sounding-board”
Washington comPost AND James Martin? Doesn’t that sort of call for a double bharf alert?
Loving gays does not mean condoning their sins.
Kind of funny seeing that fruitcake talk about "fruits".
Goes to show how corrupt Francis' college of cardinals is.
> Pope Francis himself, for example, is a frequent target. In this way, such supposedly “traditional” Catholic websites are subverting tradition.
This Pope is a Marxist anti-Christ.
Well, no -- you didn't call for Christians to love gay people. You called for Christians to pretend that gay people are normal, and that homosexuality is not an abomination in the eyes of God.
Begone, you freak.
Father Martin is not being quite honest here. He actually called on Christians to condone gay behavior and gay marriage. That’s what prompted the response, not some call to love gay people. Given this, I don’t think it’s wise to add lying to his list of sins.
If Father Martin loved gay people he would teach them to abstain from sexual activity.
Rather Fr. Martin loves the sin of sodomy and not the sinners.
I can love the sinner and hate the sin. But I can’t love anything this perv priest says
That’s my take on him.
He has called for the Catholic Church to show reverence for gay unions.
He has said, in reference to a "married" gay/transgendered" couple, "The first question that came to my mind was 'what can the Church learn from them about fidelity?'"
He also has stated homosexuals are not bound by chastity because they have not received Church teaching, which Martin, like most Jesuits, is obviously not doing.
That tells me everything I need to know about Martin, the Jesuits, and anyone who so much as gives this guy the time of day.
We do call for love of all.
We also call for repentance by all.
We love the sinners, but the unrepenting sinner who cannot see and love better than himself in an unindulging ungay person is evil and dead in the soul still
If you really love them you will look them in the eyes and calmly tell them about heaven, hell, and God’s plan of redemption.
Take it or leave it - you have free will.
But there are consequences.
Since the low-T lefties have coined alt-right, which is meaningless, we need to use our very meaningful description of them: ptui-left.
We should love gay people, but which is more loving:
- telling people tempted in that direction to ignore the disease rates among those who engage in gay sex, telling them to ignore scripture, and telling them there is nothing wrong with engaging in those actions even though those who do have extraordinarily high rates of depression and suicide, or
- showing them the joy of following God’s word, leading by example as we turn difficult decisions over to the All-knowing, and embracing those who accept God’s sovereignty over our lives with the pure love of Christian brotherhood?
It is Godly to love the sinner while hating the sin. It is not Godly to ignore, enable or encourage the sin.
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