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Archbishop Naumann beats Cardinal Cupich [Catholic Caucus]
Rorate Caeli ^ | November 14, 2017 | Kenneth J. Wolfe

Posted on 11/14/2017 12:07:05 PM PST by BlessedBeGod


Surprising liberals and the social justice wing of the American Church at today's U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops general assembly, Archbishop Joseph Naumann beat Cardinal Blase Cupich in an election for the chairmanship of the committee on pro-life activities.

Cardinal Cupich, who many on the left had hoped would reshape the pro-life office of the USCCB in the style of his Chicago predecessor Joseph Cardinal Bernardin, lost the election 54 percent to 46 percent.  This means 82 bishops voted for Cupich, with 96 bishops supporting Naumann.


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Terrible that that he didn't get more votes, but this'll do. According to Michael Sean Winters over at the Fishwrap,
"Not to put too fine a point on it, but this amounted to the bishops giving the middle finger to Pope Francis."
LOL!

Also, Fr. John Zuhlsdorf said, "212 bishops participated in a 'practice' vote. 178 voted on the matter of this committee. So, 34 abstained."

Not sure what "practice vote" means, but the total who voted was the same. Interesting that 34 abstained. Who? And why?

1 posted on 11/14/2017 12:07:05 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: BlessedBeGod
Archbishop Joseph Naumann beat Cardinal Blase Cupich in an election

Dang.

Headline had me hoping for an actual "Nicholas of Myra vs. Arius" style beating ...

2 posted on 11/14/2017 12:10:40 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Thank God


3 posted on 11/14/2017 12:11:11 PM PST by KOZ.
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To: KOZ.

You took the words out of my mouth. Thank God.


4 posted on 11/14/2017 12:13:21 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BlessedBeGod
Interesting that 34 abstained. Who? And why?

Sheep in sheep's clothing.

5 posted on 11/14/2017 12:16:24 PM PST by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: BlessedBeGod

Not to put too fine a point on it, but.... HOORAY!
One small victory to add, since the Dubia.


6 posted on 11/14/2017 12:23:21 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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This is sure to piss off Bergoglio. The 34 who abstained were scared to vote one way or the other. Cowards. Look for Bergoglio to call for another vote because he didn’t get his way.


7 posted on 11/14/2017 12:34:41 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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It is extremely disappointing to find that Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, Kansas was elected for any leadership of the USCCB. His irresponsible and dangerous handling of sexual abuse cases in the Archdiocese should have disqualified him for any leadership position. Rather than nominating him for a position of leadership, the Conference should be consulting with Rome on his replacement.


8 posted on 11/14/2017 12:53:18 PM PST by dmertz
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He’s still better than Cupich. When he got to Spokane the Bishop White Seminary was thrieving. When he left a few years later their was one seminarian left. Cupich made no effort to recruit new pastors in the church.


9 posted on 11/14/2017 1:26:21 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: dmertz
His irresponsible and dangerous handling of sexual abuse cases in the Archdiocese should have disqualified him for any leadership position. Rather than nominating him for a position of leadership, the Conference should be consulting with Rome on his replacement.

Mighty big accusations -- any proof to back them up?

10 posted on 11/14/2017 1:30:08 PM PST by GCC Catholic (Trump doesn't suffer fools, but fools will suffer Trump. Make America Great Again!)
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To: BlessedBeGod

BTTT!


11 posted on 11/14/2017 2:41:05 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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**This means 82 bishops voted for Cupich, with 96 bishops supporting Naumann.**


12 posted on 11/14/2017 2:44:44 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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A swing to Cupich of just 8 bishops would have won it for him. Close but we'll take it.

I have to say I'm surprised. Maybe opposition to Francis is greater than I'd imagined.

13 posted on 11/14/2017 2:49:30 PM PST by marshmallow
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34 cowards. Trying to give every soul some modicum of benefit for their “doubt”, the best I could come up with was a sincerely confused conscience. Pondering that excuse, (or benefit of their doubt) became SHORTLY thereafter laughable.

There is no excuse, no sincerity, no confusion. There may possibly be even no conscience at all.

I try to say to my self that the priesthood of bishops and cardinals have also been victims, as well, just as the laity have been, who are being starved to death from lack of care and feeding of their faith! These Shepherds have either never been catechized at all, or poorly so, and left critically ignorant of Church history, the rich Tradition of the Church and of the Early Fathers, etc., etc., or they have simply chosen apostasy.

Can it be possible they are this ignorant?


14 posted on 11/14/2017 6:01:11 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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I know there were problems in Kansas City, MO, but I was not aware of anything in Kansas City, KS.


15 posted on 11/14/2017 6:40:54 PM PST by rwa265
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To: pbear8

You advance ecclesially by avoiding confrontation.


16 posted on 11/15/2017 10:23:26 AM PST by Savonarola
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