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Monsignor Pope Ping!

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Yep. it’s all covered here:
Jewishnotgreek.com

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Just as a reminder: She’ol, Haides, Gehenna (also Gai-Hinnom or the Valley of the son of Hinnom in Hebrew, alternately the Valley of Tophet and the Valley of Slaughter) and Tartaros still all have different meanings. Of course, the lake of fire and brimstone (linked in the Bible to Gehenna, which is currently a public park outside Jerusalem) is definitely indicated to be prepared for Satan and his angels, and those humans not found in the Book of Life at the last judgment are going to be thrown into it.

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Jesus didn’t teach anything on hell. He taught about Gehenna, the proper name of a valley on the S and E of Jerusalem. That proper noun didn’t need translating anymore than Jerusalem or Bethlehem did, and the Roman Catholic church didn’t translate it. In the 16th century, they substituted the word hell for Gehenna. Hell came from a word meaning “cover,” from which our word helmet comes. Farmers used a “hell” to cover their produce so it wouldn’t freeze. The word had no connotation of eternal conscious torment in the spiritual realm.

Comparison of Jesus’ Teaching on Gehenna
vs. Roman Catholicism on Hell

1. Jesus taught that Gehenna was escapable, while Roman Catholicism teaches that Hell is inescapable.

2. Jesus taught only one occurrence of the punishment of Gehenna, while Roman Catholicism teaches Hell is eternal and unending.

3. Jesus taught that the punishment of Gehenna was in only in his generation, while Roman Catholicism teaches it’s for all generations.

4. Jesus taught that the punishment of Gehenna was a physical judgment, while Roman Catholicism teaches Hell is a spiritual judgment.

5. Jesus warned that the punishment of Gehenna was a regional judgment involving people in Judea, while Roman Catholicism teaches Hell is global and universal.

6. Jesus taught that mortal souls, living humans would go to Gehenna, while Roman Catholicism teaches that immortal spirits will go to Hell.

7. Jesus taught that Gehenna would be physical punishment, while Roman Catholicism teaches that spiritual punishing would be carried out on immortal spirits.

8. Jesus taught that the punishment in Gehenna was to avenge martyrs, while Roman Catholicism makes no connection to avenging martyrs in Hell.

9. Jesus taught that Gehenna was to be the end of Old Covenant Israel, while Roman Catholicism teaches nothing about Hell in relation to Old Covenant Israel.

10. Gehenna was known to Moses and the Prophets, the Roman Catholic concept of Hell is unknown to Moses and the Prophets.

11. Gehenna didn’t need translating, Roman Catholicism didn’t translate Gehenna, but substituted Hell for it.

12. There was no eternal conscious torment in Gehenna, like there is in the Roman Catholic concept of Hell.

13. The warnings of punishment in Gehenna originated with Jesus, eternal conscious torment originated in Egypt.

14. The location of Gehenna is well known, the location of Hell in the spiritual realm is unknown.

15. Photographs of Gehenna are readily available, while there are no photographs of Roman Catholicism’s concept of Hell.

16. All of these characteristics of Gehenna are in the Bible, while none of Roman Catholicism’s concept of Hell is in the Bible.

17. Gehenna and Hell are not the same in any way.

[metmom]

One of Msgr Pope’s best ever.

[Elsie]

Further, things such as pornography, lewd conduct, and immodesty are excluded from the Kingdom.

I've read something like this...

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

[editor-surveyor]

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All we need is the word of God.

Hell is!
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[5cents]

Eternity and eternal are not Greek concepts. That was not known at the time of Christ. Such a philosophy, Platonic in origin, was foreign to humanity at that time. Research the origin of those Latin words, eternal and its variations, and you will find they additions to the word of God.

The original Writings, where we get our bible translations from, do not contain any word that warrants being translated as “Eternal” You err considerably by failing to know Greek and the what the Greek word aionios means.

Also, assigning the English word ‘hell” to the Vale of Hinom (Gehenna), and with two radically different words, Tatarus and sheol, is a great error that should be refuted in all cases where they arise in conversation.

The Scriptures do not support your proposal, seriously. God chose the Greek language to express and reveal Himself. Therefore, consider that carefully. He did not use the mongrel English language for a reason.