Posted on 04/04/2018 9:11:31 PM PDT by marshmallow
“Since the XVI century, the distance the Julian and Gregorian calendars have taken from each other has led to having a different Easter date. We are sure that, as soon as the time is right, our Churches will be able to humbly and willingly implement a joint and to listen to St Paul’s invitation as a cry that sounds more urgent than ever nowadays, in a globalised, media-dependent world: ‘Christ, our Passover Lamb, has been sacrificed’ (1 Cor. 5, 7-8)”. This was said earlier today by His Holiness, Bartholomew, archbishop of Constantinople and Ecumenical Patriarch, as he received at Fanar the general vicar of the Holy Father for the diocese of Rome, mgr. Angelo De Donatis, and the Roman clergy, who are in Turkey on a pilgrimage these days.
In repeating the Easter announcement – “Christ rose from the dead!” – which will resound in the Orthodox Churches on Sunday, April 8th, Patriarch Bartholomew invited to “go and announce this great truth to all the world, we must make it the source and walk of our personal experience, we must embody it and make it fruitful in the life of the Church”. And, mentioning why they were there, Bartholomew pointed out that “being pilgrims means walking the ways of the world, it also means converting oneself to get rid of the labours of life so as to walk a way of holiness and completely entrust oneself to God”.
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Rome is showing off its divine protection exquisitely right now. Who else could survive the current pontificate?
Agreeing on the same date for Easter would be nice, but some Eastern Orthodox are not going to go along with a Catholic calendar.
The Greek Orthodox Church allows two divorces and three marriages. A spokesman for their district in San Francisco said that God isn’t interested in what people do in their bedrooms, regarding inviolability of the transmission of human life in each act of the marital embrace.
These are the rules which support the “two divorces, three marriages” construct you mentioned, but it would be a very sad state of affairs if the (thereby not so) Orthodox believed that Almighty God has less than a passing interest in human sexuality.
Kyrie, eleison.
Although God did create marriage and family life to begin with.
It would be wonderful to have a united date for both Lent and Easter for the churches.
In 1772 I think it was, the world lost 11 DAYS when it changed from the Jullian calendar to the Gregorian calendar!!! I only know this because it was on a trivia question on the ferry in Brisbane today!!!
Thus sayeth Biggirl “It would be wonderful to have a united date for both Lent and Easter for the churches.”
Why would it be “wonderful”? What would be the outstanding significance of such a thing? Does the salvation of souls have in interest on this?
Would it surprise you that what has hurt Christianity bigtime is the SCANDAL of its disunity.
First, it was the British Empire that lost the eleven days (including the North American colonies). And second, it was 1752.
The first countries to adopt the Gregorian calendar lost ten days in 1582, and the last ones to do so lost thirteen during the last century.
Bart is an ecumenist and by Orthodox standards quite liberal. He presides over a see that has been driven to the brink of extinction by centuries of Islamic persecution and he is neither liked nor trusted by a majority of the other Patriarchs. He has repeatedly been rebuked by the monks of the Holy Mountain. So while he is the primus inter pares I would take anything you may hear about/from him with these facts in consideration.
Having a common date for Easter would be nice, but from a practical perspective it is not going to happen. The Orthodox Paschalion was codified at the First Ecumenical Council and cannot be changed except by another council. Even the scoundrel Meletius IV (a Freemason) who tried to foist the so called “Reformed Calendar” on the Church and created a schism that remains to this day, knew better than to touch the Paschalion.
A pronouncement by Biggirl: “Would it surprise you that what has hurt Christianity bigtime is the SCANDAL of its disunity.”.
May I ask what is this “scandal” you refer to? Is there yet another, newer dust-up amongst the Bishops?
Christian disunity is a SAD SCANDAL because it HURTS the message of good news of the Gospel of Jesus.
Case closed.
I wont disagree with your statement. However, when one denomination chooses to celebrate Easter is probably not the best example of the disunity you are referring to.
Could he be growing very worried at this point by the growing threat from the present Turkish leadership?
Thank-you for your response and have a good and blessed Orthodox Holy Week and Easter!
Biggirl waxes elegant “Christian disunity is a SAD SCANDAL because it HURTS the message of good news of the Gospel of Jesus.
Case closed.”
Somehow the actual date believers in Christ’s resurrection celebrate said resurrection hurts the body and distorts the message??? Because millions are to be consigned to Hades because some believers celebrate Easter on a day different from others?
And I suppose the fault belongs to those who celebrate the blessed event on a day not of your choosing?
The Gregorian calendar was a great fix, but, since Pope Gregory was Catholic, the Protestants and Eastern Orthodox were afraid to go along. Russia didn’t change until after the 1917 Bolshevik revolution.
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