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To: JosephJames
This is why Jesus left us an authority on earth to interpret Divine Revelation objectively, not subjectively. Best wishes.

Your own posts contradicts your position.

You may recognize these words.

>> Thus it is very important in these times of great confusion, when even Catholic bishops are no longer in agreement about the fundamentals of our faith and morals, to not only pray much and to study the Catechism of the Catholic Church for adults, but to keep our eyes open so as not to fall into the beautiful lies of Satan presented as if they were the Truth!<<

14 posted on 05/02/2018 9:35:21 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

The gift from God of infallibility is not tied to the holiness or sinfulness of the person, of the Pope. I do not believe that I know more than Christ and thus I do not believe that Christ made a mistake by founding his Church on 12 sinners (apostles) instead of 12 perfect angles from heaven or perhaps 12 men perfect as many Christians feel to be.
You quoted me: “when even Catholic bishops are no longer in agreement about the fundamentals of our faith and morals”. And you wrote: “There are about a billion Roman Catholics who interpret Scripture in their own way. Your point fails.”
Yes, there are many Catholic lay people and many Catholic bishops in hell. Catholics who go to hell go more deeply into hell because they receive more fullness of truth and more of the fullness of the means of sanctification, but they did not correspond with these gifts, these graces from God, and ended up trusting in themselves rather than in God. If one is truly of good will and thus seeking to discover the will of God, God will not deceive this person here on earth in his journey toward the fullness of Truth Who is God. But if this person is really seeking his own will and then seeks to convince himself and others that he is seeking God’s will, this person will deceive himself.
To underline the great responsibility of the priests and bishops even more, I quote three saints before the protestant rebellion (reformation), Saints John Chrysostom, John Eudes and Athanasius, who more or less said: “The road (or the floor of hell) to Hell is paved with the bones of priests and monks, and the skulls of bishops are the lamp posts that light the path!”
I am not going to let bad priests and bishop detour me from getting to heaven, as have done so many people in the last 2000 years. Someone I know, who never enters a church except maybe for a baptism of a nephew or niece of his, says to me every once in a while: “We ought to kill all the priests”. I reply to him: “There are many priests in hell; why do you want to spend eternity with them?”!!! Let them go to hell; save yourself!
There are more rebellious Catholics today against the teachings of the Catholic Church than ever before (example: Humanae Vitae, 1968, regarding contraception); so many want to feel saved but without the cross of Christ, without changing their lives. Catholics have received more talents and thus will receive a greater punishment for not obeying God’s holy will (Lk 12:47; Lev 26:18), as we see also in the Parable of the talents (Mt 25:14-30).
Did God give us the Ten Commandments for our good or for our evil? Did God offer us the proper explanation of these Ten Commandments from his one Church for our good or for our evil? The Truth of God will set us truly free (Jn 8:32) but the truth not of God will make us slaves now and for all eternity. God, who is love, will not force anyone to seek the Truth according to God nor to spend eternity with him in heaven. We are free to choose!
If I am seeking truth from God, not from myself, I would be willing to dialogue and listen to those of good will, who present also documents concerning Divine Revelation throughout the centuries. If not, I would only seek to defend and justify my infallible opinion, and thus not ask questions to understand better what the other was trying to say, while putting aside as worthless whatever the other says that is not according to MY “intelligence” and MY (human) “wisdom”!
If I say I do the will of God so as to live the Our Father, “Thy will be done”, but I have willingly deceived myself by convincing myself that I do the will of God even though I do my own will, I will end up in hell. If I am not willing to dialogue with and listen to those of good will not in agreement with me, I am not seeking the truth outside of myself, from God, but the truth in the way I want the truth and reality. In heaven there is room for only one God. Those who go to hell decide the truth for themselves as did Adam and Eve (Gen 3:4-5). But if each one in hell dictates the truth, wanting to command all the others, who ends up commanding all the others in hell? The strongest one, who is called Satan. Might makes right, for those who do not want to seek and submit to Divine Revelation, but to themselves as little gods. Divine Revelation tells us that the strong must help the weaker ones; if we do not interpret Divine Revelation according to the guidance of God that he has given us, automatically we go toward “might makes right”, the law of the jungle as it is in hell. I submit to the guidance and explanation of Divine Revelation from the one Church that Christ founded. Who do most people today submit to, themselves, the world, Satan?
If I have true humility, I am willing to recognize that God is the Creator and I am a creature. This means I realize that I am not the truth, but Christ is the truth (Jn 14:6). This means that after having sought out the one true Church, I seek the guidance of the Church that Christ left on earth, which offers me the true interpretation of the words of Christ; in this way there is less risk living in my own subjectivism, which very easily ends up being my own disguised egoism. If I truly seek the will of God outside of my head, that is from God in Divine Revelation, explained by the living Authority that Christ left us, and live accordingly, I have the hope of salvation. The only time in all four Gospels that Jesus said to learn from him was when he said: “Learn from me; for I am meek and humble of heart” (Mt 11:29-30)!
You do not have to try to convince me that you are right about interpreting the Bible on your own and without having recourse to the Authority that Christ left on earth. Convince God when you die, that you did everything possible to discover the Truth from God, outside of the subjectivism of your own head. Explain to God how He must do things! No one goes to heaven by chance, and no one goes to hell by chance; each person makes a very radical eternal choice in this short life, to follow himself who he thinks he is God, or to follow God who is not himself. Best wishes for all eternity! Pray for me so I will not be one of the many Catholics who end up in hell who did not obey the will of God explained infallibly by the living Authority that Christ left us on earth. And I will pray for you.


33 posted on 05/03/2018 7:32:51 AM PDT by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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