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Pennsylvania Grand Jury Report Details Decades of Clerical Abuse Allegations
Catholic News Agency ^ | 8/14/18 | Christine Rousselle

Posted on 08/14/2018 4:01:30 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: Luircin
Riiiight, because an article claiming 'they did it too' totally excuses Catholicism for DECADES of COVERING FOR THE ABUSERS.

Decades? Try CENTURIES!

101 posted on 08/15/2018 7:02:26 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: NKP_Vet

I’m just tired of the Catholic bashers on FR reveling when a report comes out on Catholic clergy sex abuse while ignoring any and all stories about sex abuse in other religions.

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I can get that. It’s not fun when you get tarred with a broad brush for the sins of someone else. Sorry if I acted poorly; it felt like I was being tarred with a broad brush as well.

Though the question remains: how are you/we supposed to deal with this? Catholic leadership seems to be doing worse than nothing about this mess; that leaves the laity.

What’s the proper response?


102 posted on 08/15/2018 7:11:40 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: NKP_Vet; Luircin
I’m just tired of the Catholic bashers on FR reveling when a report comes out on Catholic clergy sex abuse while ignoring any and all stories about sex abuse in other religions.

Well, if the Catholic church did not make itself such a target rich environment, there would be nothing TO bash.

But it's very telling that many CATHOLICS THEMSELVES refuse to condemn the behavior in their priests or the cover up of it by those above them.

Oh, and show us *all (the) stories* about sex abuse in other religions and then prove we ignore them.

If you're going to make claims/accusations, then back them up.

103 posted on 08/15/2018 7:26:24 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: NKP_Vet; Luircin; metmom; caww
Sex predators deserve to burn hell. Catholics or Protestants or anyone else. I’m just tired of the Catholic bashers on FR reveling when a report comes out on Catholic clergy sex abuse while ignoring any and all stories about sex abuse in other religions.

Who is "reveling" or "ignoring"??? I think you have missed the point of many posts here where reveling is the LAST thing a non-Catholic is doing. Rather, it is the ongoing, finger pointing of some Freeper Catholics towards other churches as if to say, "They do it too!". How is it bashing to bemoan the thousands of incidents of Catholic clergy sex ABUSE as well as the cover-ups that have been going on so very many years? At least when "Protestants" are caught committing the same crimes, the vast majority are reported to law enforcement, the guilty person(s) are expelled from the church they lead or attend and the victims helped rather than discouraged to press charges.

Last but certainly not least, the Roman Catholic church claims it alone is THE ONE TRUE CHURCH of Jesus Christ and no one can be saved outside of her if they know this to be true and either leave or refuse to join. Do any other Christian churches make that same claim? When such sinful behavior is found, tolerated and protected from the very leaders of a church, that church loses its moral standing. If left up to you, would you even post these kinds of stories? Don't you think it SHOULD BE discussed and aired out? Should we all just pretend there's no problem? That hasn't worked too well, has it? It's too late now, anyway!

I think most Catholics are disgusted and disheartened by these things so it's good to hear what they have to say. I don't see it as Protestant-bashing when Catholics post threads about non-Catholic clerical misbehavior - though I don't doubt some ARE doing that. I'm glad to be able to talk about it. Instead of feeling persecuted, Catholics should use it as an opportunity to voice their anger and to determine what must happen to resolve the negative situations and defend the corrective actions being taken to address them. We should all strive to bring glory and honor to the cause of Christ.

104 posted on 08/15/2018 7:45:24 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: boatbums
Last but certainly not least, the Roman Catholic church claims it alone is THE ONE TRUE CHURCH of Jesus Christ and no one can be saved outside of her if they know this to be true and either leave or refuse to join. Do any other Christian churches make that same claim?

Certainly none that I know of.

And if I attended a church that made that claim, I'd be outta there so fast they wouldn't know what happened to them.

On these threads, we constantly see Catholic pushing Catholicism, a denomination, rather than Christ.

We preach Christ and Him crucified. Everything else is secondary, including the name on the church you attend.

I have not seen ONE Christian FReeper tell anyone else that they must belong to their church or they are going to hell.

WE consider that the mark of a cult. Just saying.......

105 posted on 08/15/2018 8:11:00 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom
So true! Jesus Christ is who saves - not a "church". In fact, the called-out ones/assembly/church IS the believers in Christ. We are what makes up His church, we are each one living stones being built up into Christ's spiritual house and HE is the chief cornerstone.

I get the impression from some of what gets said on topics like this thread that if it has ANYTHING to do with the Catholic church, it is off base for anyone to either post a thread or comment on one if they aren't Catholics in "good" standing. That, to me, if way off kilter especially when the thread is on the OPEN Religion Forum. Yet, it doesn't stop some from posting negative threads about Protestants! I appreciate the moderator's efforts to establish rules and support the idea that those who see anything negative about their religion as "bashing" and personal, shouldn't be on the forum anyway. I'm not thin-skinned, I happily defend what I believe and why I do. All glory to the Lord!

106 posted on 08/15/2018 9:45:06 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: marshmallow
The Catholic Church’s Rotherham
107 posted on 08/16/2018 3:05:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: metmom
Sometimes the truth hurts so much that a person will try to run away from it and reflect it as someone else's truth....they need to be reminded of the full import of that truth. I felt this was the case with the person i pinged at. Especially with all the recent news about how widespread it really was/is/likely will be - anything short of the harshest punishment for priests who sexually molest any of the laity, especially children, is not enough and the Church has tried to sweep it under the rug and given cover to many of the pedophiles - the target of my little rant seemed to want to suppress that knowledge to protect the church that was/is allowing the predators long leashes..

God Bless - looking forward to your next installment on studying God's Word.

108 posted on 08/16/2018 3:13:06 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The RCC was recruiting homosexuals into the seminaries back then to become priests. Their thought? That they could save gays by making having them enter into a celibate lifestyle. Yeah. It was that stupid.


109 posted on 08/16/2018 3:14:27 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: boatbums

We are all called to ongoing repentance and conversion.


110 posted on 08/16/2018 5:15:24 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl
We are all called to ongoing repentance and conversion.

By whom?

111 posted on 08/16/2018 5:59:16 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom

By God and the Holy Bible.


112 posted on 08/16/2018 6:02:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: All

Done posting on this thread.


113 posted on 08/16/2018 6:03:50 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

You have chapter and verse reference to support that claim?


114 posted on 08/16/2018 7:24:54 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Bonemaker
Marriage to a woman (or a man!)is an excellent cover for pedophilia. Keep in mind there have been (infortunately) lots of married pedophiles, including the notorious Dr. Kinsey.

Pedophiles have gotten married, had kids and abused them. So: you want to foist pedophiles on women who are seeking good husbands?

No good. No thanks. No way.

115 posted on 08/16/2018 8:24:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stand fast and hold the traditions ye have been taught, whether by word or our epistle. 2 Thess 2:15)
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To: metmom
Please name a supposed Catholic FReeper who will "never condemn the most heinous sin that occurs within the ranks of their clergy."

You could even PM me.

I will go after that person, hammer and tongs.

If such a one exists.

116 posted on 08/16/2018 8:28:13 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." - 1 Peter 4:17)
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To: Biggirl

How convenient......


117 posted on 08/16/2018 9:06:08 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: boatbums

Plus one


118 posted on 08/16/2018 9:09:47 AM PDT by wardaddy (Wake up and quit aping opinions you think will make you popular here)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

That’s a fact

It’s a skeleton of that now


119 posted on 08/16/2018 9:11:45 AM PDT by wardaddy (Wake up and quit aping opinions you think will make you popular here)
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To: boatbums
......”it is the ongoing, finger pointing of some Freeper Catholics towards other churches as if to say, “They do it too!”........

Those who are saying such things are showing their self-denial... The laity themselves are playing a role in supporting this behavior by not loudly and firmly demanding their ‘House’ get cleared out completely of these Predators, from the local end to it's leadership at the Vatican.

Unfortunately these perverted Priests know exactly who to go to for protection....the protectors are well known among these perverts.

120 posted on 08/16/2018 12:54:34 PM PDT by caww
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