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1 posted on 06/07/2019 2:43:20 PM PDT by piusv
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“But you know that we are going through a terrible crisis, a truly diabolical disorientation.”
These are terrible times, as the SSPX is aware.


2 posted on 06/07/2019 3:33:34 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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I had never run into anti-Protestant bigotry when I was Catholic or after I became Lutheran (a Monsignor recommended I do that) - until I started reading things like this on FR. A proud heretic here!


3 posted on 06/07/2019 4:09:19 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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The following should help relieve Verrecchio of some of his concerns (and the study came out pre-francischurch):

From Ecumenism to Silent Apostasy: the study

4 posted on 06/07/2019 4:15:11 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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I doubt that anything much will come of the latest efforts to confront the Pope because so-called traditional Catholics have split themselves into almost as many sects as Protestants have. There are:

1. Church Militant who chastise the Bishops but not the Pope
2. The Wanderer supporters
3. The Remnant led by the brother of the publisher of The Wanderer who now disowns The Wanderer
4. The SSPX
5. Those that believe the SSPX is a valid Catholic organization but aren't members.
6. Those who believe the SSPX is in apostasy
7. Those former members of the SSPX that believe Fellay is too deferential to the Pope
8. Sedevacantists who believe Francis is the first anti-Pope or non-Pope
9. Sedevacantists who believe John XXIII was the first anti-pope or non-Pope and that the Second Vatican Council is invalid
10. Those that believe in various conspiracy theories that the Church is now completely controlled by: The Vatican Bank, Gays, Masons, Space Aliens, the Illuminati or some combination of the above
11. Various groups of reasonable Catholics who either quietly or on record disagree with the Pope but are unwilling to go all the way and call him a heretic
12. Various groups of reasonable Catholics who are willing to call the Pope a heretic but are also willing to wait for the process of replacement to unfold in an orderly manner

(NOTE: Church Militant may have changed its position recently to be more directly in opposition to the Pope but I haven't kept track.)

6 posted on 06/07/2019 4:56:17 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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