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Traditionalists Secure (2020 UMC) General Conference Majority
Good News ^ | June 24, 2019 | Tom Lambrecht

Posted on 06/26/2019 8:23:24 AM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 06/26/2019 8:23:24 AM PDT by xzins
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Some annual conferences gained traditionalist delegates, while others lost traditionalists. At this point, the traditionalist delegate count is down 15 percent from the St. Louis General Conference. That still leaves enough traditionalist U.S. delegates to assure a majority. This calculation is based on the reporting of reliable analysts in each annual conference. It also takes into account the possibility of up to 10 percent of the central conference delegates being unable to participate due to inability to obtain a visa. Should all the central conference delegates be able to attend General Conference, the traditionalist margin would be even larger.

2 posted on 06/26/2019 8:24:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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Rather than continue a fruitless battle, delegates from all perspectives should coalesce around a negotiated plan that will provide space between the groups and multiply the options for Wesleyan Methodist ministry.

In other word split the UMC up. Sooner rather than later.

3 posted on 06/26/2019 8:27:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: xzins

It does not matter the left will ignore the rules.


4 posted on 06/26/2019 8:29:53 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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Won’t matter, I think. I expect the denomination to split. But, you could be right about a jerk or two that goes with the traditionalists and then starts the entire homosexuality chaos all over again. Although this time there will be rules to remove them from the denomination.


5 posted on 06/26/2019 8:48:05 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

But conservatives fight back.


6 posted on 06/26/2019 8:49:10 AM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold. Z)
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I expect it will be sooner.

The sticky issues will be pensions, health care, funds in various accounts, and denominational properties: camps, publishing houses/stores, offices, etc.


7 posted on 06/26/2019 8:49:58 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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Celebrating traditional Methodistsim


8 posted on 06/26/2019 8:53:18 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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Back to the basics


9 posted on 06/26/2019 8:59:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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It stuns me to think that we are seeing mainstream Christian denominations torn apart over homosexuality.

I never thought homosexuality would be such a big religious issue.

Are homosexuals clamoring to become members of the Methodist Church if only the Methodist church becomes liberal on homosexuality? What’s really going on here?


10 posted on 06/26/2019 9:07:23 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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The Bishops and liberal leaders spent 5 years trying to ensure the One Church Plan passed. They used all their influence leading up to this Special General Conference to resolve the issues once and for all. BUT, like Hillary, they failed to prevail despite all the advantages they built into the process.

Now they want annual do-overs, exactly the situation the Special General Conference was designed to prevent. Liberals, Gee!


11 posted on 06/26/2019 9:39:39 AM PDT by oldplayer
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UMC has already departed from Scripture by allowing women pastors. It’s just a matter of time before they drift away even further.


12 posted on 06/26/2019 10:20:56 AM PDT by ealgeone
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I think the arguments are in your favor for the most part.

However, I still don’t think that “should be the husband of one wife” is limiting the ministry to married people. I think it is talking about the number of wives.


13 posted on 06/26/2019 1:40:50 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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Agree...but the leadership is male, and if married, one wife.


14 posted on 06/26/2019 2:37:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Destroyer Sailor

I see no evidence of conservatives fighting back. The left will continue until the UMC splits.


15 posted on 06/26/2019 4:31:21 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

This probable split has come about because over many decades God has used the conservative Good News group to fight back.


16 posted on 06/26/2019 7:50:21 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Albion Wilde; Cronos; AppyPappy; lightman

Ping


17 posted on 06/27/2019 5:03:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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congratulations (if I am reading this correctly)


18 posted on 06/27/2019 6:54:59 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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You are.


19 posted on 06/27/2019 6:59:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat; Destroyer Sailor; xzins
The left will continue until the UMC splits.

The left will try again in 2024.

And in 2028...

The strategy they used successfully in the Presbyterian Church USA, The Episcopal Church, and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America has been to wear down and outlast the orthodox.

20 posted on 06/27/2019 7:43:38 AM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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